Immortality or Resurrection (Updated) by William West (ereader with dictionary .txt) π
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What is a man? Is a person born with an immortal soul, or do the saved put on immortality at the resurrection? Is a person a three part being, an animal body with both a soul and a spirit that will live without the body? This is one of the most important questions of all time. It has more influence on our conception of our nature, our view of life in this world and life after death than any other question.
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of death for every man" (Hebrews 2:9). Today's
theology that death is only life in a different place and is not really death makes our
salvation impossible by making the death of Christ impossible.
Robert Turner said, "Sin separates us from God, and 'the soul that sinneth, it shall die.'" Florida
College Annual Lectures, 1986, Page 172. Which one is he saying? (1) The soul that sins lives
forever separated from God, or (2) "The soul that sins shall die." The two are a total
conduction of each other and both cannot be true.
Romans 6:21-23 If we have a soul that is now immortal, it now has eternal life and
will always have eternal life, even if is not in Christ, even if there were no resurrection,
even if Christ had not died in our place the wages of sin could not be death to a soul that
cannot die.
β’ "For the end of these things is death...for the wages of sin is death" King James
Version
β’ "For the outcome of these things is death...for the wages of sin is death" New
American Standard
β’ "These things result in death...for the wages of sin is death" New International
Version
β’ "These things only bring death...when people sin, they earn what sin pays--death"
New Century Version
β’ "And they lead to death...sin pays off with death" Contemporary English Version
β’ "Things that end in eternal doom...for the wages of sin is death" New Living
Translation
β’ "The result of those things is death...for sin pays it wage--death" Today's English
Version
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o There is not the slightest sign of an immortal soul that is not subject to
death in this passage.
THE THREE STEPS TO DEATH in James 1:15: (1) LUST (when it has conceived)
(2) gives birth to SIN (3) sin (when it is accomplished) brings DEATH. In today's
preaching the three steps are changed to (1) LUST (2) SIN (3) ETERNAL LIFE IN
HELL.
β’ "Then when LUST hath conceived, it bringeth forth SIN; and sin, when it is
finished, bringeth forth DEATH" (King James Version)
β’ "Then, when DESIRE has conceived, it gives birth to SIN: and sin, when it is fullgrown,
brings forth DEATH" (New King James Version)
β’ "Then the LUST, when it hath conceived, beareth SIN: and the sin, when it is full
grown, bringeth forth DEATH" (American Standard Version)
β’ "Then when LUST has conceived, it gives birth to SIN and when sin is
accomplished, it brings forth DEATH" (New American Standard Version)
β’ "Then, when that DESIRE has conceived, it gives birth to SIN, and that sin, when
it if fully grown, gives birth to DEATH" (New Revised Standard Version)
β’ "Then, after DESIRE has conceived, it gives birth to SIN; and sin, when it is fullgrown,
gives birth to DEATH" (New International Version)
It is LIFE or DEATH, not reward or torment; never an everlasting life of torment with
God doing the tormenting. There is so much teaching in the New Testament on life and
death that it is as if God foreknow men would change the wages of sin into an everlasting
life of torment, and He gives them no way to say at the judgment "I did not know." Why
do men not believe God? DEATH IS IN CONTRAST TO LIFE. IT IS THE OPPOSITE
OF LIFE, AND NOT JUST ANOTHER KIND OF LIFE. DEATH IS NOT LIFE IN
HEAVEN, HELL, PURGATORY, OR HADES. IT IS NOT LIFE OF ANY KIND,
ANYWHERE; DEATH IS DEATH, NOT EVERLASTING LIFE WITH TORMENT,
NOT A MERE CHANGE IN THE MODE OF EXISTENCE. The unsaved cannot be
both eternally dead and eternally alive and conscious. They cannot be both dead and alive
at the same time
"For if you live according to the flesh, YOU WILL DIE: but if by the Spirit YOU put to
death the deeds of the body, YOU WILL LIVE" Romans 8:13. βYOUβ will live or die, not
just an "immaterial, invisible part of man" (W. E. Vine). THE SAME THING THAT
"WILL DIE" IS THE SAME THING THAT "WILL LIVE," BUT WE ARE TOLD THAT
"IT" CANNOT DIE.
β’ Narrow way = LIFE - Broad way = DESTRUCTION (Matthew 7:13-14)
β’ LIFE or DEATH (Romans 6:23; 4:17; 1 Corinthians 3:22)
β’ LIFE or PERISH (John 3:16)
β’ LIFE or DIE (Romans 8:13)
β’ LIFE AND PEACE or DEATH (Romans 8:6)
β’ SAVED or DESTROY (James 4:12)
β’ LIFE or DESTRUCTION (Matthew 7:13-14)
β’ Into LIFE out of DEATH (1 John 3:14)
β’ Under the Old Testament Law (earthly life or death)
o LIFE and DEATH (Deuteronomy 30:15-20)
o DEATH and LIVE (Ezekiel 18:23)
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o DEATH and LIVE (Ezekiel 18:32) The Bible says what it means and
means what it says. God inspired John to say, "should not perish" but
many say God did not mean, "perish" but "have an eternal life of
torment."
Is the world on Satan's side?
β’ God said, "You shall surely die" (Genesis 2:17)
β’ Satan said, "You shall surely not die" (Genesis 3:4)
β’ Most Protestant theologians say, "You shall surely not die"
In Romans 1:28-23, Paul gives a list of sins, then says, "They that practice such things
ARE WORTHY OF DEATH." Not have an eternal life of torment in Hell, but of death, but
many today say, "They that practice such things ARE WORTHY OF ETERNAL LIFE
IN HELL." Will you believe them or Paul? You cannot believe both. "What fruit then
had you at that time in the things whereof you are now ashamed? For THE END OF
THESE THINGS IS DEATH...You have your fruit unto sanctification, AND THE END
ETERNAL LIFE, for the wages of sin is DEATH; but the free gift of God is ETERNAL
LIFE in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 6:21-23). The gift of God to those who believe
on His Son is eternal life (John 3:16), and this gift is something they do not already have;
not something ALL were born with. If all have eternal life from birth, even those who do
not believe, how could life be a gift to believers? When those who believe that all now
have eternal life (an immortal soul) read the Bible, and change "life" into "a reward" and
change death, die, perish, destroyed, and destruction into "punishment." To them, the
Bible cannot mean what it says and they must change it.
ADDITIONS TO THE BIBLE
βEternal Hell,β βimmortal soul,β βsave your immortal soul,β and βeternal suffering in
Hell fireβ are not in the Bible but are used often by preachers and Bible teacher and are
falsely presented as being the teaching of the Bible.
The first death is the end of life of the flesh (life as it exist now). The second death
then must also be the end of life (life as it will exist then), or it is not a second death, but
something altogether different from death - a second life. An everlasting life of torment is
not a second death. The traditional concept is that a person has an immortal soul, which
neither the first or second death can kill, therefore; death must be made to be something
other than death. On about every page throughout the New Testament it is life or death,
not just reward or punishment. THE UNSAVED DIE, PERISH, ARE DESTROYED,
AND ARE LOST. THE OBEDIENT ARE SAVED FROM DEATH AND GIVEN LIFE
AND IMMORTALITY AT THE JUDGMENT. If the soul now has eternal life, if it is
immortal and cannot die, then much of the language of the Bible has no meaning and is
saying nothing. WHY IS THERE SO MUCH IN THE BIBLE ON DEATH WHEN
THERE IS NO DEATH? Many have believed what their preacher or church says and
have rejected the Bible as being untrue. Eternal life is frequently promised to the
righteous, but never to the wicked. If they do not have eternal life they cannot endure
eternal torment.
Our body will be "fashion a new" American Standard Version, "Change" King James
Version. "Transform" New American Standard Version, Philippians 3:20-21. "But when
this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on
immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in
victory...but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." If
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the lost will live forever in Hell, do they also have the victory over death; will not their
life (not their death) be just as eternal as the saved?
Summery: If it were true that there is no real death, that death is only a separation
from God, then there could not be a resurrection of the dead for no one could be really
dead. The pagan doctrine of the immortality of the soul makes the Bible doctrine of the
resurrection of the dead both impossible and useless. Any life after death depends wholly
on the resurrection of the dead at the coming of Christ (Luke 14:13-14; 1 Thessalonians
4:16; 1 Corinthians 15:51-55).
THE BIBLE HAS BEEN CHANGED
TO TEACH THAT DEATH IS ETERNAL LIFE
"We have passed out of death into life" (1 John 4:14). It is us (the whole person) that
were dead in our relation to God, not a dead soul that βpassed out of death into lifeβ and
is now alive. IF IT IS THE SOUL THAT WAS DEAD BUT IS NOW ALIVE, IT
WOULD BE A CONTRADICTION OF THE DOCTRINE THAT THE SOUL CAN
NEVER DIE, FOR AN IMMORTAL SOUL THAT CANNOT BE DEAD WOULD
HAVE BEEN DEAD, AND IT WOULD HAVE "PASSED OUT OF DEATH INTO
LIFE;" the soul, which we are told can never be dead was dead at one time but now the
soul that was a dead soul is now alive. It was the person that was dead before they were
in Christ, but is now alive in Him, it is the person that has passed out of death into life,
not an undying immaterial part of the person that could never be dead.
Believers in immortality from birth must change the Bible to say:
1. Those who are destroyed are not destroyed. (James 4:12; 2 Peter 2:12; 2 Peter
3:7)
2. Those who perish do not perish. (1 Corinthians 1:8: John 3:16)
3. Those who die do not die. (Romans 6:23) (Death is not death)
4. The end of the wicked is not their end. (Philippians 3:19; Hebrews 6:8)
5. Those who are consumed are not consumed (Hebrews 10:27)
6. Mortals are born immortal; (1 Timothy 6:16) therefore, how can there be any
such thing as being mortal? There are no mortals and could never be a mortal if
all men are created immortal
7. The second death is not a death; it is eternal life with torment (Revelation 21:8)
Are they really teaching the Bible when they corrupt it into saying the opposite of
what it really says, or teaching what they want the Bible to say?
IS βTHE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATHβ
Or
IS THE WAGES OF SIN AN ETERNAL LIFE OF TORMENT?
It cannot be both. If all are immortal from birth, then death could not exist; no one will
ever die; no one will ever be dead; therefore, the wages of sin could not be death.
DEATH, THE ENEMY DEFEATED FOR BELIEVERS: "Jesus said unto her, your
brother shall rise again. Martha said unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the
resurrection at the last day. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he
that believes on me, though he die, yet shall he live; and whosoever lives and believes on
me shall never die" (John 11:23-26). "If a man keep my word, he shall never see death"
(John 8:55). "I am the living bread which came down out of heaven: if any man eat of this
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bread, he shall live forever" (John 6:51). It is evident that Jesus
theology that death is only life in a different place and is not really death makes our
salvation impossible by making the death of Christ impossible.
Robert Turner said, "Sin separates us from God, and 'the soul that sinneth, it shall die.'" Florida
College Annual Lectures, 1986, Page 172. Which one is he saying? (1) The soul that sins lives
forever separated from God, or (2) "The soul that sins shall die." The two are a total
conduction of each other and both cannot be true.
Romans 6:21-23 If we have a soul that is now immortal, it now has eternal life and
will always have eternal life, even if is not in Christ, even if there were no resurrection,
even if Christ had not died in our place the wages of sin could not be death to a soul that
cannot die.
β’ "For the end of these things is death...for the wages of sin is death" King James
Version
β’ "For the outcome of these things is death...for the wages of sin is death" New
American Standard
β’ "These things result in death...for the wages of sin is death" New International
Version
β’ "These things only bring death...when people sin, they earn what sin pays--death"
New Century Version
β’ "And they lead to death...sin pays off with death" Contemporary English Version
β’ "Things that end in eternal doom...for the wages of sin is death" New Living
Translation
β’ "The result of those things is death...for sin pays it wage--death" Today's English
Version
142
o There is not the slightest sign of an immortal soul that is not subject to
death in this passage.
THE THREE STEPS TO DEATH in James 1:15: (1) LUST (when it has conceived)
(2) gives birth to SIN (3) sin (when it is accomplished) brings DEATH. In today's
preaching the three steps are changed to (1) LUST (2) SIN (3) ETERNAL LIFE IN
HELL.
β’ "Then when LUST hath conceived, it bringeth forth SIN; and sin, when it is
finished, bringeth forth DEATH" (King James Version)
β’ "Then, when DESIRE has conceived, it gives birth to SIN: and sin, when it is fullgrown,
brings forth DEATH" (New King James Version)
β’ "Then the LUST, when it hath conceived, beareth SIN: and the sin, when it is full
grown, bringeth forth DEATH" (American Standard Version)
β’ "Then when LUST has conceived, it gives birth to SIN and when sin is
accomplished, it brings forth DEATH" (New American Standard Version)
β’ "Then, when that DESIRE has conceived, it gives birth to SIN, and that sin, when
it if fully grown, gives birth to DEATH" (New Revised Standard Version)
β’ "Then, after DESIRE has conceived, it gives birth to SIN; and sin, when it is fullgrown,
gives birth to DEATH" (New International Version)
It is LIFE or DEATH, not reward or torment; never an everlasting life of torment with
God doing the tormenting. There is so much teaching in the New Testament on life and
death that it is as if God foreknow men would change the wages of sin into an everlasting
life of torment, and He gives them no way to say at the judgment "I did not know." Why
do men not believe God? DEATH IS IN CONTRAST TO LIFE. IT IS THE OPPOSITE
OF LIFE, AND NOT JUST ANOTHER KIND OF LIFE. DEATH IS NOT LIFE IN
HEAVEN, HELL, PURGATORY, OR HADES. IT IS NOT LIFE OF ANY KIND,
ANYWHERE; DEATH IS DEATH, NOT EVERLASTING LIFE WITH TORMENT,
NOT A MERE CHANGE IN THE MODE OF EXISTENCE. The unsaved cannot be
both eternally dead and eternally alive and conscious. They cannot be both dead and alive
at the same time
"For if you live according to the flesh, YOU WILL DIE: but if by the Spirit YOU put to
death the deeds of the body, YOU WILL LIVE" Romans 8:13. βYOUβ will live or die, not
just an "immaterial, invisible part of man" (W. E. Vine). THE SAME THING THAT
"WILL DIE" IS THE SAME THING THAT "WILL LIVE," BUT WE ARE TOLD THAT
"IT" CANNOT DIE.
β’ Narrow way = LIFE - Broad way = DESTRUCTION (Matthew 7:13-14)
β’ LIFE or DEATH (Romans 6:23; 4:17; 1 Corinthians 3:22)
β’ LIFE or PERISH (John 3:16)
β’ LIFE or DIE (Romans 8:13)
β’ LIFE AND PEACE or DEATH (Romans 8:6)
β’ SAVED or DESTROY (James 4:12)
β’ LIFE or DESTRUCTION (Matthew 7:13-14)
β’ Into LIFE out of DEATH (1 John 3:14)
β’ Under the Old Testament Law (earthly life or death)
o LIFE and DEATH (Deuteronomy 30:15-20)
o DEATH and LIVE (Ezekiel 18:23)
143
o DEATH and LIVE (Ezekiel 18:32) The Bible says what it means and
means what it says. God inspired John to say, "should not perish" but
many say God did not mean, "perish" but "have an eternal life of
torment."
Is the world on Satan's side?
β’ God said, "You shall surely die" (Genesis 2:17)
β’ Satan said, "You shall surely not die" (Genesis 3:4)
β’ Most Protestant theologians say, "You shall surely not die"
In Romans 1:28-23, Paul gives a list of sins, then says, "They that practice such things
ARE WORTHY OF DEATH." Not have an eternal life of torment in Hell, but of death, but
many today say, "They that practice such things ARE WORTHY OF ETERNAL LIFE
IN HELL." Will you believe them or Paul? You cannot believe both. "What fruit then
had you at that time in the things whereof you are now ashamed? For THE END OF
THESE THINGS IS DEATH...You have your fruit unto sanctification, AND THE END
ETERNAL LIFE, for the wages of sin is DEATH; but the free gift of God is ETERNAL
LIFE in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 6:21-23). The gift of God to those who believe
on His Son is eternal life (John 3:16), and this gift is something they do not already have;
not something ALL were born with. If all have eternal life from birth, even those who do
not believe, how could life be a gift to believers? When those who believe that all now
have eternal life (an immortal soul) read the Bible, and change "life" into "a reward" and
change death, die, perish, destroyed, and destruction into "punishment." To them, the
Bible cannot mean what it says and they must change it.
ADDITIONS TO THE BIBLE
βEternal Hell,β βimmortal soul,β βsave your immortal soul,β and βeternal suffering in
Hell fireβ are not in the Bible but are used often by preachers and Bible teacher and are
falsely presented as being the teaching of the Bible.
The first death is the end of life of the flesh (life as it exist now). The second death
then must also be the end of life (life as it will exist then), or it is not a second death, but
something altogether different from death - a second life. An everlasting life of torment is
not a second death. The traditional concept is that a person has an immortal soul, which
neither the first or second death can kill, therefore; death must be made to be something
other than death. On about every page throughout the New Testament it is life or death,
not just reward or punishment. THE UNSAVED DIE, PERISH, ARE DESTROYED,
AND ARE LOST. THE OBEDIENT ARE SAVED FROM DEATH AND GIVEN LIFE
AND IMMORTALITY AT THE JUDGMENT. If the soul now has eternal life, if it is
immortal and cannot die, then much of the language of the Bible has no meaning and is
saying nothing. WHY IS THERE SO MUCH IN THE BIBLE ON DEATH WHEN
THERE IS NO DEATH? Many have believed what their preacher or church says and
have rejected the Bible as being untrue. Eternal life is frequently promised to the
righteous, but never to the wicked. If they do not have eternal life they cannot endure
eternal torment.
Our body will be "fashion a new" American Standard Version, "Change" King James
Version. "Transform" New American Standard Version, Philippians 3:20-21. "But when
this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on
immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in
victory...but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." If
144
the lost will live forever in Hell, do they also have the victory over death; will not their
life (not their death) be just as eternal as the saved?
Summery: If it were true that there is no real death, that death is only a separation
from God, then there could not be a resurrection of the dead for no one could be really
dead. The pagan doctrine of the immortality of the soul makes the Bible doctrine of the
resurrection of the dead both impossible and useless. Any life after death depends wholly
on the resurrection of the dead at the coming of Christ (Luke 14:13-14; 1 Thessalonians
4:16; 1 Corinthians 15:51-55).
THE BIBLE HAS BEEN CHANGED
TO TEACH THAT DEATH IS ETERNAL LIFE
"We have passed out of death into life" (1 John 4:14). It is us (the whole person) that
were dead in our relation to God, not a dead soul that βpassed out of death into lifeβ and
is now alive. IF IT IS THE SOUL THAT WAS DEAD BUT IS NOW ALIVE, IT
WOULD BE A CONTRADICTION OF THE DOCTRINE THAT THE SOUL CAN
NEVER DIE, FOR AN IMMORTAL SOUL THAT CANNOT BE DEAD WOULD
HAVE BEEN DEAD, AND IT WOULD HAVE "PASSED OUT OF DEATH INTO
LIFE;" the soul, which we are told can never be dead was dead at one time but now the
soul that was a dead soul is now alive. It was the person that was dead before they were
in Christ, but is now alive in Him, it is the person that has passed out of death into life,
not an undying immaterial part of the person that could never be dead.
Believers in immortality from birth must change the Bible to say:
1. Those who are destroyed are not destroyed. (James 4:12; 2 Peter 2:12; 2 Peter
3:7)
2. Those who perish do not perish. (1 Corinthians 1:8: John 3:16)
3. Those who die do not die. (Romans 6:23) (Death is not death)
4. The end of the wicked is not their end. (Philippians 3:19; Hebrews 6:8)
5. Those who are consumed are not consumed (Hebrews 10:27)
6. Mortals are born immortal; (1 Timothy 6:16) therefore, how can there be any
such thing as being mortal? There are no mortals and could never be a mortal if
all men are created immortal
7. The second death is not a death; it is eternal life with torment (Revelation 21:8)
Are they really teaching the Bible when they corrupt it into saying the opposite of
what it really says, or teaching what they want the Bible to say?
IS βTHE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATHβ
Or
IS THE WAGES OF SIN AN ETERNAL LIFE OF TORMENT?
It cannot be both. If all are immortal from birth, then death could not exist; no one will
ever die; no one will ever be dead; therefore, the wages of sin could not be death.
DEATH, THE ENEMY DEFEATED FOR BELIEVERS: "Jesus said unto her, your
brother shall rise again. Martha said unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the
resurrection at the last day. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he
that believes on me, though he die, yet shall he live; and whosoever lives and believes on
me shall never die" (John 11:23-26). "If a man keep my word, he shall never see death"
(John 8:55). "I am the living bread which came down out of heaven: if any man eat of this
145
bread, he shall live forever" (John 6:51). It is evident that Jesus
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