Immortality or Resurrection (Updated) by William West (ereader with dictionary .txt) π
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What is a man? Is a person born with an immortal soul, or do the saved put on immortality at the resurrection? Is a person a three part being, an animal body with both a soul and a spirit that will live without the body? This is one of the most important questions of all time. It has more influence on our conception of our nature, our view of life in this world and life after death than any other question.
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attempt to interfere with the judgment, they will be destroyed. The judgment
and destruction of the lost will take place on this earth. Their Hell will be on this earth
and will last only unto those in it are burned too ashes, the second death. The saved will
live forever with earthly bodies on a restored earth on which there will be no evil. No one
will ever be in Heaven. Just as with the Christ of God version of Hell many
Premillennialists who are in most Protestant churches believe this version of Hell or one
that is very similar to it. The number of those who are called Protestant but do not believe
any of the orthodox Protestant versions of Hell is growing.
[7] Latter-day Saints version of Hell [Mormons]: They believe in three Heavens
that they call Kingdoms, Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial Kingdoms. They believe in a
Hell, but only a very few, the sons of perdition, will be in it forever. They are those that
were once faithful Mormons but become apostates and left the Mormon Church. All will
be raised from the dead. Except for the sons of perdition, most of those in Hell will in
time pass out of it into the lowest Telestial Kingdom and will be there forever, even those
who are not Mormons, but those who are not Mormons can go no higher then the lower
Telestial Kingdom.
[8] The grave is Hell version [Jehovahβs Witnesses]: The grave is Hell and all go to
it at death. There is no knowledge or torment in this Hell, just sleep or death. Some from
many different groups believe this version of Hell. They get support mostly from the
older translations like the King James Version, and most who believe it think the newer
translations that translate only Gehenna into Hell are wrong. They believe Gehenna is a
trash dump, not Hell. This Hell is going on now with all the dead in it, both the good and
the bad are asleep in it and it will wake up at the Resurrection. All are unconscious and
there is no torment of the wicked or reward of the righteous in "Hell" where all the dead,
both the good and the bad now are. In this version, Hell will end at the resurrection and
there will be no Hell after the resurrection and judgment.
The Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Hell is the βcommon grave of mankindβ where
people go when they die. They are not conscious there.
A. B. Robinson, September 1996 [A Jehovah's Witnesses]. "We do not have the word 'hell' in the
NWT. We translate gehenna as gehenna, hades as hades and sheol as sheol. By doing this we can
get the true import of these words. Gehenna is a garbage dump and sheol and hades often refer
to the grave. We believe everyone who dies goes to 'hell' or sheol [hades]. The dead are
unconscious, asleep if you will [Ecc 9:5,19 and 1 Thes 4:13-16] and will remain such until they are
resurrected. We also believe that 'hell' will be emptied, as is clearly stated in Rev 20:13. The
persons who were in hell, both the righteous and the unrighteous [Acts 24:15] will be
resurrected and judged. Those who are deserving of it will then be thrown into the lake of fire,
the second death [Rev 20:14,15]."
Brian Holt in an E-mail to me. He said, "JW's do not have the word βhellβ in the NWT," then
says everyone who dies goes to Hell. In today's English Hell has come to mean a place of
eternal torment after death, and to translate hades into Hell is an untrue translation. The
grave is Hell was not the intentions of the translators who first put the word "Hell" into
the Bible, the grave is Hell is not the way it would have been understood by English
speaking people when it was first used by the translators or the way it is understood
today.
I have been told that what I believe "is what Jehovah's Witnesses have been teaching for years."
One person said to me, "You believe the same thing Jehovah's Witnesses believe. Why don't you join
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them and leave us alone?" ONE WRITER SAID, "A NEW STANDARD OF TRUTH HAS
BEEN FOUND. IF THE OCCULTS OR LIBERALS BELIEVE IT, THEN IT IS
WRONG." The problem with this is (1) I do not believe as they do that the grave is Hell
(2) that most all denominations, whether they are occults, liberals, or whatever, teach
many things that the Bible teaches and many that the Bible does not teach. Nothing is
right or wrong because a denomination teaches it, not even right or wrong if the
Jehovah's Witnesses denomination teaches it. It is right if the Bible teaches it or wrong if
the Bible does not teach it. Catholic, Baptist, Jehovah's Witnesses, Church of God, and all
others each teach many things that the Bible teaches and each one teaches many things
that the Bible does not teach. Anything is right if the Bible teaches it even if the
Jehovah's Witnesses teach it and wrong if the Bible does not teach it. JEHOVAHβS
WITNESSES TEACH ADULTERY IS A SIN; IS IT WRONG TO TEACH THAT
ADULTERY IS A SIN BECOUSE JEHOVAHβS WITNESSES TEACH IT TO BE? To
say, "That is what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach," is said for the same reason the Baptist
says, "That is water salvation" or "That is Campbellism." THEIR REAL PROBLEM IS
NOT THAT ONE OF THE OCCULTS TEACH IT, BUT THAT THEY HAVE NO
OTHER ANSWER AND KNOW THAT THEY CAN TURN MANY OFF JUST BY
SAYING "THAT IS WHAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TEACH" JUST AS THE
BAPTIST DID WITH "THAT IS WATER SALVATION." The Moslem religion
believes in eternal torment; can we say it is wrong because those who believe in eternal
torment believe something the Moslems teach? No, it is wrong because the Bible does
not teach it.
Why? What is the real reason they say that is Jehovah's Witnesses teaching? I think
one reason is that they just do not want to deal with it. Do not want to take the time.
Another reason is the same reason the Baptist call us "Campbellism" and say, "You
believe in water salvation." They could not show that a person can be saved without
baptism, therefore, they would say, "You believe in water salvation" for they know this
would make others prejudice and not believe the Bible. Now the same thing is being done
to anyone who does not believe in Hell by saying, "You are nothing but a Jehovah's
Witnesses." EVEN THOUGH WHAT I BELIEVE IS FAR FROM WHAT THE
JEHOVAH'S TEACH, SOME SAY TO ME, "YOU BELIEVE WHAT THE
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BELIEVE." They believe there is a Hell, but it is going on
now, and I do not believe the Bible says anything about any kind of Hell; not one that is
going on now or will be at any time after death. The truth is that if Jehovah's Witnesses
did believe as I do (they do not, but even if they did) as long as the Bible teaches it, I
would not care if it were what they believed, but would say that it is great that they
believe the Bible on that point, and would wish that they believed the Bible on all points.
If you made two lists, one a list of things any denomination believes that is not in the
Bible, and a list of things it believes that is in the Bible, both lists would be long. The
persons who say "That is Jehovah's Witnesses teaching" believes many of the same
things that would be on the list of things the Jehovah's Witnesses believes.
Some of the many things Jehovah's Witnesses teach that I do not believe.
1. Jesus was not the Son of God
2. The Millennium
3. Only 144,000 will go to Heaven
4. All the rest of the saved will live forever on this earth for all eternality
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5. They don't believe in blood transfusions
6. Hell is the grave and all the dead are now in Hell. Unfortunately, it is not true that
they do not believe in Hell but believe Hell is now going on. The more there are
that do not believe that God slandering teaching the better, but, they do believe in
Hell, just not one of the many orthodox Protestant versions of Hell although many
Premillennialists who are called orthodox Protestants believe as they do, that Hell
is the grave. Unto the resurrection death is death, not any kind of life anyplace.
7. And many others.
IF "THAT IS WHAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BELIEVES" MAKES
ANYTHING WRONG, IT IS SUCH A BROAD ARGUMENT THAT THERE IS
NOTHING IN THE BIBLE THAT IS NOT DESTROYED BY IT FOR THERE IS
NO BIBLE TEACHING THAT IS NOT BELIEVED BY MANY FLASE
RELIGIONS.
PROBABLE ORIGIN OF THIS VERSION OF HELL. Sheol is translated Hell in the
King James Version thirty-one times and grave thirty-one times. It puts all in Hell or the
grave together, both the good and the bad, where they will be unto the resurrection. If one
believes the mistranslation of the King James Version, then he or she must believe the
grave is Hell version of Hell for it is clearly taught in the Old Testament of the King
James Version. The Jehovah's Witnesses and others who believe this version have all the
proof they need in the mistranslation in the King James Version.
The Bible version of Hell: There is no Bible version of Hell. Both the name Hell and
the concept, a place where God will forever torment most men was not known about in
Old or New Testament times. The Greeks did not know it about or anyone back them.
Christ or Paul used neither the place nor the name. It was not known about by anyone
unto long after the last page of the Bible.
WHICH HELL DO YOU BELIEVE IN?
Most of the versions of Hell below are based on the belief that:
β’ A person has some part of them self that is immortal from birth and is not subject
to death.
β’ That death is not death, the dead are more alive then the living, "You shall not
surely die."
SOME BELIEVE:
β’ 1). SOME BELIEVE SATAN IS THE TORMENTER. According to Jonathan
Edwards and most Hell fire preachers; Satan will be doing the tormenting of all
that are in Hell forever.
β’ 2). SOME BELIEVE GOD IS THE TORMENTER. Today many believe God
will be doing the tormenting.
β’ 3). Some denominations believe Hell will be on this earth.
β’ 4). Others believe that Hell will last for a while; but will end with all that are in
Hell being saved and going to Heaven.
β’ 5). Some believe that Hell will only last unto the ones in it have paid for their
sins, and then they will be destroyed.
β’ 6). Some believe Hell is hot.
β’ 7). Some believe that Hell is cold.
β’ 8). Some believe Hell is dark.
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β’ 9). Some believe Hell is Metaphorical, it is not literally hot, cold or dark; we
cannot understand what it is really like and are given pictures to tell us how bad it
is.
β’ 10). Some believe that Hell is only mental anguish.
β’ 11). Some believe that Hell is a place of separation from God without any torment
from God.
β’ 12). Some believe that Hell is under the earth.
β’ 13). Some believe Hell is who knows where. Most, but not all, now realize there
is not a place of torment under the earth and have moved it. Now who knows
where they think Hell is, maybe somewhere out in space.
β’ 14). Some believe Hell exists now, and the lost dead are now being tormented in
it.
β’ 15). Some believe
and destruction of the lost will take place on this earth. Their Hell will be on this earth
and will last only unto those in it are burned too ashes, the second death. The saved will
live forever with earthly bodies on a restored earth on which there will be no evil. No one
will ever be in Heaven. Just as with the Christ of God version of Hell many
Premillennialists who are in most Protestant churches believe this version of Hell or one
that is very similar to it. The number of those who are called Protestant but do not believe
any of the orthodox Protestant versions of Hell is growing.
[7] Latter-day Saints version of Hell [Mormons]: They believe in three Heavens
that they call Kingdoms, Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial Kingdoms. They believe in a
Hell, but only a very few, the sons of perdition, will be in it forever. They are those that
were once faithful Mormons but become apostates and left the Mormon Church. All will
be raised from the dead. Except for the sons of perdition, most of those in Hell will in
time pass out of it into the lowest Telestial Kingdom and will be there forever, even those
who are not Mormons, but those who are not Mormons can go no higher then the lower
Telestial Kingdom.
[8] The grave is Hell version [Jehovahβs Witnesses]: The grave is Hell and all go to
it at death. There is no knowledge or torment in this Hell, just sleep or death. Some from
many different groups believe this version of Hell. They get support mostly from the
older translations like the King James Version, and most who believe it think the newer
translations that translate only Gehenna into Hell are wrong. They believe Gehenna is a
trash dump, not Hell. This Hell is going on now with all the dead in it, both the good and
the bad are asleep in it and it will wake up at the Resurrection. All are unconscious and
there is no torment of the wicked or reward of the righteous in "Hell" where all the dead,
both the good and the bad now are. In this version, Hell will end at the resurrection and
there will be no Hell after the resurrection and judgment.
The Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Hell is the βcommon grave of mankindβ where
people go when they die. They are not conscious there.
A. B. Robinson, September 1996 [A Jehovah's Witnesses]. "We do not have the word 'hell' in the
NWT. We translate gehenna as gehenna, hades as hades and sheol as sheol. By doing this we can
get the true import of these words. Gehenna is a garbage dump and sheol and hades often refer
to the grave. We believe everyone who dies goes to 'hell' or sheol [hades]. The dead are
unconscious, asleep if you will [Ecc 9:5,19 and 1 Thes 4:13-16] and will remain such until they are
resurrected. We also believe that 'hell' will be emptied, as is clearly stated in Rev 20:13. The
persons who were in hell, both the righteous and the unrighteous [Acts 24:15] will be
resurrected and judged. Those who are deserving of it will then be thrown into the lake of fire,
the second death [Rev 20:14,15]."
Brian Holt in an E-mail to me. He said, "JW's do not have the word βhellβ in the NWT," then
says everyone who dies goes to Hell. In today's English Hell has come to mean a place of
eternal torment after death, and to translate hades into Hell is an untrue translation. The
grave is Hell was not the intentions of the translators who first put the word "Hell" into
the Bible, the grave is Hell is not the way it would have been understood by English
speaking people when it was first used by the translators or the way it is understood
today.
I have been told that what I believe "is what Jehovah's Witnesses have been teaching for years."
One person said to me, "You believe the same thing Jehovah's Witnesses believe. Why don't you join
244
them and leave us alone?" ONE WRITER SAID, "A NEW STANDARD OF TRUTH HAS
BEEN FOUND. IF THE OCCULTS OR LIBERALS BELIEVE IT, THEN IT IS
WRONG." The problem with this is (1) I do not believe as they do that the grave is Hell
(2) that most all denominations, whether they are occults, liberals, or whatever, teach
many things that the Bible teaches and many that the Bible does not teach. Nothing is
right or wrong because a denomination teaches it, not even right or wrong if the
Jehovah's Witnesses denomination teaches it. It is right if the Bible teaches it or wrong if
the Bible does not teach it. Catholic, Baptist, Jehovah's Witnesses, Church of God, and all
others each teach many things that the Bible teaches and each one teaches many things
that the Bible does not teach. Anything is right if the Bible teaches it even if the
Jehovah's Witnesses teach it and wrong if the Bible does not teach it. JEHOVAHβS
WITNESSES TEACH ADULTERY IS A SIN; IS IT WRONG TO TEACH THAT
ADULTERY IS A SIN BECOUSE JEHOVAHβS WITNESSES TEACH IT TO BE? To
say, "That is what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach," is said for the same reason the Baptist
says, "That is water salvation" or "That is Campbellism." THEIR REAL PROBLEM IS
NOT THAT ONE OF THE OCCULTS TEACH IT, BUT THAT THEY HAVE NO
OTHER ANSWER AND KNOW THAT THEY CAN TURN MANY OFF JUST BY
SAYING "THAT IS WHAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TEACH" JUST AS THE
BAPTIST DID WITH "THAT IS WATER SALVATION." The Moslem religion
believes in eternal torment; can we say it is wrong because those who believe in eternal
torment believe something the Moslems teach? No, it is wrong because the Bible does
not teach it.
Why? What is the real reason they say that is Jehovah's Witnesses teaching? I think
one reason is that they just do not want to deal with it. Do not want to take the time.
Another reason is the same reason the Baptist call us "Campbellism" and say, "You
believe in water salvation." They could not show that a person can be saved without
baptism, therefore, they would say, "You believe in water salvation" for they know this
would make others prejudice and not believe the Bible. Now the same thing is being done
to anyone who does not believe in Hell by saying, "You are nothing but a Jehovah's
Witnesses." EVEN THOUGH WHAT I BELIEVE IS FAR FROM WHAT THE
JEHOVAH'S TEACH, SOME SAY TO ME, "YOU BELIEVE WHAT THE
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BELIEVE." They believe there is a Hell, but it is going on
now, and I do not believe the Bible says anything about any kind of Hell; not one that is
going on now or will be at any time after death. The truth is that if Jehovah's Witnesses
did believe as I do (they do not, but even if they did) as long as the Bible teaches it, I
would not care if it were what they believed, but would say that it is great that they
believe the Bible on that point, and would wish that they believed the Bible on all points.
If you made two lists, one a list of things any denomination believes that is not in the
Bible, and a list of things it believes that is in the Bible, both lists would be long. The
persons who say "That is Jehovah's Witnesses teaching" believes many of the same
things that would be on the list of things the Jehovah's Witnesses believes.
Some of the many things Jehovah's Witnesses teach that I do not believe.
1. Jesus was not the Son of God
2. The Millennium
3. Only 144,000 will go to Heaven
4. All the rest of the saved will live forever on this earth for all eternality
245
5. They don't believe in blood transfusions
6. Hell is the grave and all the dead are now in Hell. Unfortunately, it is not true that
they do not believe in Hell but believe Hell is now going on. The more there are
that do not believe that God slandering teaching the better, but, they do believe in
Hell, just not one of the many orthodox Protestant versions of Hell although many
Premillennialists who are called orthodox Protestants believe as they do, that Hell
is the grave. Unto the resurrection death is death, not any kind of life anyplace.
7. And many others.
IF "THAT IS WHAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BELIEVES" MAKES
ANYTHING WRONG, IT IS SUCH A BROAD ARGUMENT THAT THERE IS
NOTHING IN THE BIBLE THAT IS NOT DESTROYED BY IT FOR THERE IS
NO BIBLE TEACHING THAT IS NOT BELIEVED BY MANY FLASE
RELIGIONS.
PROBABLE ORIGIN OF THIS VERSION OF HELL. Sheol is translated Hell in the
King James Version thirty-one times and grave thirty-one times. It puts all in Hell or the
grave together, both the good and the bad, where they will be unto the resurrection. If one
believes the mistranslation of the King James Version, then he or she must believe the
grave is Hell version of Hell for it is clearly taught in the Old Testament of the King
James Version. The Jehovah's Witnesses and others who believe this version have all the
proof they need in the mistranslation in the King James Version.
The Bible version of Hell: There is no Bible version of Hell. Both the name Hell and
the concept, a place where God will forever torment most men was not known about in
Old or New Testament times. The Greeks did not know it about or anyone back them.
Christ or Paul used neither the place nor the name. It was not known about by anyone
unto long after the last page of the Bible.
WHICH HELL DO YOU BELIEVE IN?
Most of the versions of Hell below are based on the belief that:
β’ A person has some part of them self that is immortal from birth and is not subject
to death.
β’ That death is not death, the dead are more alive then the living, "You shall not
surely die."
SOME BELIEVE:
β’ 1). SOME BELIEVE SATAN IS THE TORMENTER. According to Jonathan
Edwards and most Hell fire preachers; Satan will be doing the tormenting of all
that are in Hell forever.
β’ 2). SOME BELIEVE GOD IS THE TORMENTER. Today many believe God
will be doing the tormenting.
β’ 3). Some denominations believe Hell will be on this earth.
β’ 4). Others believe that Hell will last for a while; but will end with all that are in
Hell being saved and going to Heaven.
β’ 5). Some believe that Hell will only last unto the ones in it have paid for their
sins, and then they will be destroyed.
β’ 6). Some believe Hell is hot.
β’ 7). Some believe that Hell is cold.
β’ 8). Some believe Hell is dark.
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β’ 9). Some believe Hell is Metaphorical, it is not literally hot, cold or dark; we
cannot understand what it is really like and are given pictures to tell us how bad it
is.
β’ 10). Some believe that Hell is only mental anguish.
β’ 11). Some believe that Hell is a place of separation from God without any torment
from God.
β’ 12). Some believe that Hell is under the earth.
β’ 13). Some believe Hell is who knows where. Most, but not all, now realize there
is not a place of torment under the earth and have moved it. Now who knows
where they think Hell is, maybe somewhere out in space.
β’ 14). Some believe Hell exists now, and the lost dead are now being tormented in
it.
β’ 15). Some believe
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