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What is a man? Is a person born with an immortal soul, or do the saved put on immortality at the resurrection? Is a person a three part being, an animal body with both a soul and a spirit that will live without the body? This is one of the most important questions of all time. It has more influence on our conception of our nature, our view of life in this world and life after death than any other question.
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Protestant churches. In βTwo Views
Of Hellβ Robert A. Peterson and William Fudge give two competing views. These two
books show that there are very different competing views about Hell in the Protestant
churches, but in true there are many more than four very different conflicting views in
Protestant and Catholic churches, all with a large number of believers, and many more
views in other churches. ANY VIEW A PERSON MAY HAVE, ALL THAT BELIEVE
THE SAME VIEW IS IN A SMALL GROUP WHEN COMPARED WITH ALL THAT
ARE IN ALL OTHER GROUP. NOT ONE OF THE MANY VIEWS OF HELL HAS
EVEN ONE-FIFTH OF ALL THOSE THAT CLAIM TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE. The
divisions on what Hell is and who will be in it is unbelievable, and most who say they
believe in Hell has no idea of the vast number of the visions of Hell, or the unbelievable
differences in what Hell is believed to be, how long it will last, who will be in it, and
where it will be.
TWENTH-FOUR PLUS VERSIONS OF HELL
THREE CATHOLIC VERSIONS OF HELL
1. The Dark Age Catholic version of Hell
2. The New Catholic version of Hell
3. Nether World
SOME OF THE MANY DIVISIONS OF THE PROTESTANT VERSIONS OF HELL
The Jonathan Edwards version
1. The Graphic view of Hell
2. Satan doing the tormenting
3. God doing the tormenting
4. The Metaphorical view of both Heaven and Hell
5. Mental anguish only Hell - Billy Graham
231
6. C. S Lewis - the almost pleasant Hell
7. Protestant Traditionalist
8. Many Protestant Premillennial versions
9. Realized Eschatology β A. D. 70 version
10. Protestant Rephaim version
EIGHT OTHER VERSIONS OF HELL
1. Church of Christ, Christian Church Abrahamβs bosom after Judgment Hell, A
newer version
2. Edward Fudge version: The short Hell
3. Christadelphians version
4. Church of God and others
5. Universalist version of Hell
6. Seventh-Day Advent version
7. Latter-day Saints version [Mormons]
8. The Grave is Hell version [Jehovah's Witnesses]
NO BIBLE HELL
WHICH HELL DO YOU BELIEVE IN?
FROM WHERE DID HELL COME?
How Hell was put into and is being kept in the Bible
THREE CATHOLIC VERSIONS OF HELL
[1] The Medieval Dark Age Catholic version of Hell: The soul being immortal
came from Greek philosophy, and was brought into the church by some of the church
fathers, by Augustine more then most others. The doctrine of Hell came soon after the
immortal soul doctrine along with Purgatory, the sale of indulgences, Limbo, worship of
Mary and saints, Nether World, Holy Water, the rosary, forbidding Priest to marry, the
crucifix, Monks and Nuns, forbidding eating of meat on Friday, and many other teaching;
and was fully developed by the Dark Age Catholic Church before the Protestant
Reformation. I have found it difficult to pen down just what is the official teaching. It
seems to be that in the past they believed that only a very few, the very bad, will go to
Hell, which is a real place, at their death with no judgment, most go to Purgatory at death.
A few of the very good will go to Heaven at their death with no judgment [an instant
rapture]. At death most Catholic will go immediately to Purgatory, which seems to be a
limited version of Hell, unto they have suffered enough to pay for their sins or unto their
love ones have paid all they can, then they go to Heaven. How long a person will be in
Purgatory is sometimes taught to be a short time and sometimes millions of years to those
who have no one to win indulgences for them. It has brought enormous wealth to the rich
Catholic Church from the poor who paid what little they had and even done without food
to help a loved one. The Catholic Purgatory gives no hope for heathens, heretics, or the
unbaptized.
[2] The new Catholic version of Hell:
Pope John II, "Hell is not a punishment imposed externally by God, but the condition resulting
from attitudes and actions which people adopt in this life...So eternal damnation is not God's
work but is actually our own doing...More than a physical place, Hell is the state of those who
freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy." In a
statement made to his general audience, July 28, 1999.
232
There are other high up Catholics who have made statements like this one but I see no
use in adding more when you have the top dog in the Catholic Church. Maybe this is why
two of their Bible English translations do not have the word "Hell" in them, and who
knows how many other Catholics translations in other languages do not; however,
because it has been the official doctrine for centuries and the decrees of councils and
Popes, the Roman Catholic Church cannot officially not teach Hell is a place of eternal
torment without giving up completely her claim of infallibility. Protestantism has not
made this claim of infallibility and many are giving Hell up.
[3] THE NETHER WORLD: IS THIS A NEW (third) CATHOLIC VERSION
OF HELL? More and more in today's writing, The Neither World is being used as if it is
a Bible place that is clearly taught in the Bible; but I have yet to read where anyone told
where it is in the Bible. Do both the Nether World and Abraham's bosom now exists at
the same time? If so, how are they different? I have heard the same preachers preach one
at one time and the other at another time. The American Heritage Dictionary says,
βNETHER, Located beneath or below; lower or under: the nether regions of the earth.β
Where did this world that is located beneath or under this world come from? It is
not in the Bible, therefore, how anyone know about it? It came from the Catholic Church.
Like Hell, they mistranslated it from hades to get it into the Bible. BOTH HELL AND
NETHER WORLD WERE MISTRANSLATED FROM THE SAME WORD (HADES)
AND BOTH FROM THE SAME PASSAGE. See Acts 2:27 New American Bible "for
you will not abandon my soul to the Nether World." Also Psalms 16:10 etc. THE
NETHER WORLD IS A NEW NAME BEING PUT INTO THE BIBLE BY THE SAME
PEOPLE (the Catholic Church) WHO PUT HELL INTO IT, AND IT IS BEING PUT
INTO THE BIBLE IN THE SAME WAY, BY MISTRANSLATING THE SAME
WORD THEY MISTRANSLATED TO PUT IN HELL.
1. First: hades was mistranslated Hell in Catholic translations
2. Second: the same word in the same passage is now mistranslated Nether World in
some Catholic translations.
IT WORKED FOR THEM THE FIRST TIME, SO THEY TRIED IT A SECOND
TIME. When they need to prove Hell, they use one mistranslation; and when they need to
prove the Nether World, they use another mistranslation of the same word in the same
passage.
The Nether World and Universalist version of Hell, the "age lasting" Hell are very
singular in many ways. Both have those who are not worthy of being in Heaven going
through some kind of punishment but will end up in Heaven. The main different is that
some in the Nether World are to evil to ever be saved and will always be tormented by
God but in the Universalist age lasting punishment all will end up in Heaven.
MORE THAN TWENTY
PROTESTANT VERSION OF HELL
SOME OF THE MANY DIVISIONS OF THE PROTESTANT VERSIONS OF
HELL. Going to Heaven or Hell one by one at death, before and without the judgment or
the Resurrection. After much conflict among the reformers, most Protestants accepted
much of the early Catholic version but without Purgatory. Unconditional immortality,
which is the foundation on which Hell stands, was accepted mostly due to Calvin
233
winning out over Martin Luther. If they had accepted Luther's views on immortality,
there would be no foundation for Hell. Many Protestants believe the soul of all who do
not accept Christ will instantly be transported to Hell at the death of the body before the
resurrection and judgment day. God deliberately chooses to make them suffer and feel the
pain without any letup forever. The saved will go to their eternal home in Heaven at
death [an instant rapture]. The Westminster Confession says, "The souls of the righteous...are
received unto the highest heavens...the soul of the wicked are cast into Hell." Does God judge them
at death, them maybe thousands of years later, takes them out of Heaven and Hell to
rejudge them at the resurrection to see whether He made a mistake? Many believe an
unbaptized baby will not be saved. This version is still believed by many today, even by
many that say they are looking for the rapture. An opposition to belief in Hell is rapidly
growing in the Protestant churches. From the Protestant Reformation unto now there have
been many changes and new Protestant versions of Hell.
[1] THE CALVIN VERSION OF HELL: The given no chance Hell. An extension
of the early Protestant Version, but with a god that made most of mankind knowing he is
going to torment them in Hell forever, and there is nothing they can do to keep from
going to Hell. This god made them just so he could torment them forever as their creed
says "to His good pleasure." No amount of preaching or teaching can change the number
that shall be in this Hell not even by one person. The Westminster Confession says, "By the
decree of God, for the Manifestation of is glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto Everlasting
Life, and others foreordained unto everlasting death." Some Protestants still believe this version
of Hell that their god made most of mankind just so he could torment them for eternality
but it is not near as poplar as it was a few years ago. Those who say they are orthodox
Protestants who do not believe the Calvin Version of Hell may far out number those who
do.
[2] THE JONATHAN EDWARDS VERSION OF HELL: Also, an extension of
the early Protestant Version and there was a time when most Protestants believed this
view of Hell but now only a few believe it. There are about as many variations of this
version as there are preachers who preach it. Most taught God had given Hell over to
Satan and Satan will roast most of mankind forever and torment them however he wishes
to. Some have demons peeling off the burning flash of those in Hell with God making
sure they keep it up forever. Some have God doing the tormenting of Satan, the demons,
and man, with God forever pouring in fire and brimstone, and thousands of other ways of
tormenting with each preacher trying to out do the others in telling of the horrors of Hell.
Each one trying to make the god of Hell more evil then the others have. Jonathan Edwards
said God "will crush their blood out and make it fly, so that it will sprinkle his garment and stain all his
raiment." They never tell how they know such details. Put all their horrors together and it
would take many books to tell then all. Some of them get very specific with the details of
the torment. These "Hellfire" preachers are not as poplar as they once was and their
audience is much smaller. It is unimportant to them if they have no Bible for their Hell or
its horrors; the badly mistranslated King James Version is all they need to make their
Hell believable to many with whatever kind of torment they want to put in it. Some
believers of the Calvin version also believe this version and mix the two together. There
is not much unity of belief among the Protestants. Today, in almost any church if the
preacher started preached sermons about Hell that was
Of Hellβ Robert A. Peterson and William Fudge give two competing views. These two
books show that there are very different competing views about Hell in the Protestant
churches, but in true there are many more than four very different conflicting views in
Protestant and Catholic churches, all with a large number of believers, and many more
views in other churches. ANY VIEW A PERSON MAY HAVE, ALL THAT BELIEVE
THE SAME VIEW IS IN A SMALL GROUP WHEN COMPARED WITH ALL THAT
ARE IN ALL OTHER GROUP. NOT ONE OF THE MANY VIEWS OF HELL HAS
EVEN ONE-FIFTH OF ALL THOSE THAT CLAIM TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE. The
divisions on what Hell is and who will be in it is unbelievable, and most who say they
believe in Hell has no idea of the vast number of the visions of Hell, or the unbelievable
differences in what Hell is believed to be, how long it will last, who will be in it, and
where it will be.
TWENTH-FOUR PLUS VERSIONS OF HELL
THREE CATHOLIC VERSIONS OF HELL
1. The Dark Age Catholic version of Hell
2. The New Catholic version of Hell
3. Nether World
SOME OF THE MANY DIVISIONS OF THE PROTESTANT VERSIONS OF HELL
The Jonathan Edwards version
1. The Graphic view of Hell
2. Satan doing the tormenting
3. God doing the tormenting
4. The Metaphorical view of both Heaven and Hell
5. Mental anguish only Hell - Billy Graham
231
6. C. S Lewis - the almost pleasant Hell
7. Protestant Traditionalist
8. Many Protestant Premillennial versions
9. Realized Eschatology β A. D. 70 version
10. Protestant Rephaim version
EIGHT OTHER VERSIONS OF HELL
1. Church of Christ, Christian Church Abrahamβs bosom after Judgment Hell, A
newer version
2. Edward Fudge version: The short Hell
3. Christadelphians version
4. Church of God and others
5. Universalist version of Hell
6. Seventh-Day Advent version
7. Latter-day Saints version [Mormons]
8. The Grave is Hell version [Jehovah's Witnesses]
NO BIBLE HELL
WHICH HELL DO YOU BELIEVE IN?
FROM WHERE DID HELL COME?
How Hell was put into and is being kept in the Bible
THREE CATHOLIC VERSIONS OF HELL
[1] The Medieval Dark Age Catholic version of Hell: The soul being immortal
came from Greek philosophy, and was brought into the church by some of the church
fathers, by Augustine more then most others. The doctrine of Hell came soon after the
immortal soul doctrine along with Purgatory, the sale of indulgences, Limbo, worship of
Mary and saints, Nether World, Holy Water, the rosary, forbidding Priest to marry, the
crucifix, Monks and Nuns, forbidding eating of meat on Friday, and many other teaching;
and was fully developed by the Dark Age Catholic Church before the Protestant
Reformation. I have found it difficult to pen down just what is the official teaching. It
seems to be that in the past they believed that only a very few, the very bad, will go to
Hell, which is a real place, at their death with no judgment, most go to Purgatory at death.
A few of the very good will go to Heaven at their death with no judgment [an instant
rapture]. At death most Catholic will go immediately to Purgatory, which seems to be a
limited version of Hell, unto they have suffered enough to pay for their sins or unto their
love ones have paid all they can, then they go to Heaven. How long a person will be in
Purgatory is sometimes taught to be a short time and sometimes millions of years to those
who have no one to win indulgences for them. It has brought enormous wealth to the rich
Catholic Church from the poor who paid what little they had and even done without food
to help a loved one. The Catholic Purgatory gives no hope for heathens, heretics, or the
unbaptized.
[2] The new Catholic version of Hell:
Pope John II, "Hell is not a punishment imposed externally by God, but the condition resulting
from attitudes and actions which people adopt in this life...So eternal damnation is not God's
work but is actually our own doing...More than a physical place, Hell is the state of those who
freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy." In a
statement made to his general audience, July 28, 1999.
232
There are other high up Catholics who have made statements like this one but I see no
use in adding more when you have the top dog in the Catholic Church. Maybe this is why
two of their Bible English translations do not have the word "Hell" in them, and who
knows how many other Catholics translations in other languages do not; however,
because it has been the official doctrine for centuries and the decrees of councils and
Popes, the Roman Catholic Church cannot officially not teach Hell is a place of eternal
torment without giving up completely her claim of infallibility. Protestantism has not
made this claim of infallibility and many are giving Hell up.
[3] THE NETHER WORLD: IS THIS A NEW (third) CATHOLIC VERSION
OF HELL? More and more in today's writing, The Neither World is being used as if it is
a Bible place that is clearly taught in the Bible; but I have yet to read where anyone told
where it is in the Bible. Do both the Nether World and Abraham's bosom now exists at
the same time? If so, how are they different? I have heard the same preachers preach one
at one time and the other at another time. The American Heritage Dictionary says,
βNETHER, Located beneath or below; lower or under: the nether regions of the earth.β
Where did this world that is located beneath or under this world come from? It is
not in the Bible, therefore, how anyone know about it? It came from the Catholic Church.
Like Hell, they mistranslated it from hades to get it into the Bible. BOTH HELL AND
NETHER WORLD WERE MISTRANSLATED FROM THE SAME WORD (HADES)
AND BOTH FROM THE SAME PASSAGE. See Acts 2:27 New American Bible "for
you will not abandon my soul to the Nether World." Also Psalms 16:10 etc. THE
NETHER WORLD IS A NEW NAME BEING PUT INTO THE BIBLE BY THE SAME
PEOPLE (the Catholic Church) WHO PUT HELL INTO IT, AND IT IS BEING PUT
INTO THE BIBLE IN THE SAME WAY, BY MISTRANSLATING THE SAME
WORD THEY MISTRANSLATED TO PUT IN HELL.
1. First: hades was mistranslated Hell in Catholic translations
2. Second: the same word in the same passage is now mistranslated Nether World in
some Catholic translations.
IT WORKED FOR THEM THE FIRST TIME, SO THEY TRIED IT A SECOND
TIME. When they need to prove Hell, they use one mistranslation; and when they need to
prove the Nether World, they use another mistranslation of the same word in the same
passage.
The Nether World and Universalist version of Hell, the "age lasting" Hell are very
singular in many ways. Both have those who are not worthy of being in Heaven going
through some kind of punishment but will end up in Heaven. The main different is that
some in the Nether World are to evil to ever be saved and will always be tormented by
God but in the Universalist age lasting punishment all will end up in Heaven.
MORE THAN TWENTY
PROTESTANT VERSION OF HELL
SOME OF THE MANY DIVISIONS OF THE PROTESTANT VERSIONS OF
HELL. Going to Heaven or Hell one by one at death, before and without the judgment or
the Resurrection. After much conflict among the reformers, most Protestants accepted
much of the early Catholic version but without Purgatory. Unconditional immortality,
which is the foundation on which Hell stands, was accepted mostly due to Calvin
233
winning out over Martin Luther. If they had accepted Luther's views on immortality,
there would be no foundation for Hell. Many Protestants believe the soul of all who do
not accept Christ will instantly be transported to Hell at the death of the body before the
resurrection and judgment day. God deliberately chooses to make them suffer and feel the
pain without any letup forever. The saved will go to their eternal home in Heaven at
death [an instant rapture]. The Westminster Confession says, "The souls of the righteous...are
received unto the highest heavens...the soul of the wicked are cast into Hell." Does God judge them
at death, them maybe thousands of years later, takes them out of Heaven and Hell to
rejudge them at the resurrection to see whether He made a mistake? Many believe an
unbaptized baby will not be saved. This version is still believed by many today, even by
many that say they are looking for the rapture. An opposition to belief in Hell is rapidly
growing in the Protestant churches. From the Protestant Reformation unto now there have
been many changes and new Protestant versions of Hell.
[1] THE CALVIN VERSION OF HELL: The given no chance Hell. An extension
of the early Protestant Version, but with a god that made most of mankind knowing he is
going to torment them in Hell forever, and there is nothing they can do to keep from
going to Hell. This god made them just so he could torment them forever as their creed
says "to His good pleasure." No amount of preaching or teaching can change the number
that shall be in this Hell not even by one person. The Westminster Confession says, "By the
decree of God, for the Manifestation of is glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto Everlasting
Life, and others foreordained unto everlasting death." Some Protestants still believe this version
of Hell that their god made most of mankind just so he could torment them for eternality
but it is not near as poplar as it was a few years ago. Those who say they are orthodox
Protestants who do not believe the Calvin Version of Hell may far out number those who
do.
[2] THE JONATHAN EDWARDS VERSION OF HELL: Also, an extension of
the early Protestant Version and there was a time when most Protestants believed this
view of Hell but now only a few believe it. There are about as many variations of this
version as there are preachers who preach it. Most taught God had given Hell over to
Satan and Satan will roast most of mankind forever and torment them however he wishes
to. Some have demons peeling off the burning flash of those in Hell with God making
sure they keep it up forever. Some have God doing the tormenting of Satan, the demons,
and man, with God forever pouring in fire and brimstone, and thousands of other ways of
tormenting with each preacher trying to out do the others in telling of the horrors of Hell.
Each one trying to make the god of Hell more evil then the others have. Jonathan Edwards
said God "will crush their blood out and make it fly, so that it will sprinkle his garment and stain all his
raiment." They never tell how they know such details. Put all their horrors together and it
would take many books to tell then all. Some of them get very specific with the details of
the torment. These "Hellfire" preachers are not as poplar as they once was and their
audience is much smaller. It is unimportant to them if they have no Bible for their Hell or
its horrors; the badly mistranslated King James Version is all they need to make their
Hell believable to many with whatever kind of torment they want to put in it. Some
believers of the Calvin version also believe this version and mix the two together. There
is not much unity of belief among the Protestants. Today, in almost any church if the
preacher started preached sermons about Hell that was
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