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β€œMy plans?” he said, as if astonished at the word. β€œWell, you see, I’m building. I mean to settle here altogether next year....”

Pierre looked silently and searchingly into Prince Andrew’s face, which had grown much older.

β€œNo, I meant to ask...” Pierre began, but Prince Andrew interrupted him.

β€œBut why talk of me?... Talk to me, yes, tell me about your travels and all you have been doing on your estates.”

Pierre began describing what he had done on his estates, trying as far as possible to conceal his own part in the improvements that had been made. Prince Andrew several times prompted Pierre’s story of what he had been doing, as though it were all an old-time story, and he listened not only without interest but even as if ashamed of what Pierre was telling him.

Pierre felt uncomfortable and even depressed in his friend’s company and at last became silent.

β€œI’ll tell you what, my dear fellow,” said Prince Andrew, who evidently also felt depressed and constrained with his visitor, β€œI am only bivouacking here and have just come to look round. I am going back to my sister today. I will introduce you to her. But of course you know her already,” he said, evidently trying to entertain a visitor with whom he now found nothing in common. β€œWe will go after dinner. And would you now like to look round my place?”

They went out and walked about till dinnertime, talking of the political news and common acquaintances like people who do not know each other intimately. Prince Andrew spoke with some animation and interest only of the new homestead he was constructing and its buildings, but even here, while on the scaffolding, in the midst of a talk explaining the future arrangements of the house, he interrupted himself:

β€œHowever, this is not at all interesting. Let us have dinner, and then we’ll set off.”

At dinner, conversation turned on Pierre’s marriage.

β€œI was very much surprised when I heard of it,” said Prince Andrew.

Pierre blushed, as he always did when it was mentioned, and said hurriedly: β€œI will tell you some time how it all happened. But you know it is all over, and forever.”

β€œForever?” said Prince Andrew. β€œNothing’s forever.”

β€œBut you know how it all ended, don’t you? You heard of the duel?”

β€œAnd so you had to go through that too!”

β€œOne thing I thank God for is that I did not kill that man,” said Pierre.

β€œWhy so?” asked Prince Andrew. β€œTo kill a vicious dog is a very good thing really.”

β€œNo, to kill a man is badβ€”wrong.”

β€œWhy is it wrong?” urged Prince Andrew. β€œIt is not given to man to know what is right and what is wrong. Men always did and always will err, and in nothing more than in what they consider right and wrong.”

β€œWhat does harm to another is wrong,” said Pierre, feeling with pleasure that for the first time since his arrival Prince Andrew was roused, had begun to talk, and wanted to express what had brought him to his present state.

β€œAnd who has told you what is bad for another man?” he asked.

β€œBad! Bad!” exclaimed Pierre. β€œWe all know what is bad for ourselves.”

β€œYes, we know that, but the harm I am conscious of in myself is something I cannot inflict on others,” said Prince Andrew, growing more and more animated and evidently wishing to express his new outlook to Pierre. He spoke in French. β€œI only know two very real evils in life: remorse and illness. The only good is the absence of those evils. To live for myself avoiding those two evils is my whole philosophy now.”

β€œAnd love of one’s neighbor, and self-sacrifice?” began Pierre. β€œNo, I can’t agree with you! To live only so as not to do evil and not to have to repent is not enough. I lived like that, I lived for myself and ruined my life. And only now when I am living, or at least trying” (Pierre’s modesty made him correct himself) β€œto live for others, only now have I understood all the happiness of life. No, I shall not agree with you, and you do not really believe what you are saying.” Prince Andrew looked silently at Pierre with an ironic smile.

β€œWhen you see my sister, Princess Mary, you’ll get on with her,” he said. β€œPerhaps you are right for yourself,” he added after a short pause, β€œbut everyone lives in his own way. You lived for yourself and say you nearly ruined your life and only found happiness when you began living for others. I experienced just the reverse. I lived for glory.β€”And after all what is glory? The same love of others, a desire to do something for them, a desire for their approval.β€”So I lived for others, and not almost, but quite, ruined my life. And I have become calmer since I began to live only for myself.”

β€œBut what do you mean by living only for yourself?” asked Pierre, growing excited. β€œWhat about your son, your sister, and your father?”

β€œBut that’s just the same as myselfβ€”they are not others,” explained Prince Andrew. β€œThe others, one’s neighbors, le prochain, as you and Princess Mary call it, are the chief source of all error and evil. Le prochainβ€”your Kiev peasants to whom you want to do good.”

And he looked at Pierre with a mocking, challenging expression. He evidently wished to draw him on.

β€œYou are joking,” replied Pierre, growing more and more excited. β€œWhat error or evil can there be in my wishing to do good, and even doing a littleβ€”though I did very little and did it very badly? What evil can there be in it if unfortunate people, our serfs, people like ourselves, were growing up and dying with no idea of God and truth beyond ceremonies and meaningless prayers and are now instructed in a comforting belief in future life, retribution, recompense, and consolation? What evil and error are there in it, if people were dying of disease without help while material assistance could so easily be rendered, and I supplied them with a doctor, a hospital, and an asylum for the aged? And is it not a palpable, unquestionable good if a peasant, or a woman with a baby, has no rest day or night and I give them rest and leisure?” said Pierre, hurrying and lisping. β€œAnd I have done that though badly and to a small extent; but I have done something toward it and you cannot persuade me that it was not a good action, and more than that, you can’t make me believe that you do not think so yourself. And the main thing is,” he continued, β€œthat I know, and know for certain, that the enjoyment of doing this good is the only sure happiness in life.”

β€œYes, if you put it like that it’s quite a different matter,” said Prince Andrew. β€œI build a house and lay out a garden, and you build hospitals. The one and the other may serve as a pastime. But what’s right and what’s good must be judged by one who knows all, but not by us. Well, you want an argument,” he added, β€œcome on then.”

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