Immortality or Resurrection by William West (philippa perry book txt) π
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earth will not be after the day of the Lord? THERE IS NO WAY TO READ THE EARTH WILL BE RESTORED TO BE THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE ADAM SINNED IN THIS PASSAGE. "DISAPPEAR" "MELT AWAY" "VANISH" "BE DESTROYED" "BE DISSOLVED" "PASS AWAY" "BURNED UP" DOES NOT MEAN "BE RESTORED"
If the second coming of Christ is passed and all end time prophecy has been fulfilled as Realized Eschatology teaches then life will go on forever on the earth as it is now for, according to them, nothing is said in the Bible about the earth ending, the victory over death when death will have been abolished, or the end of evil.
The fire is just a literal as the water; if one is figurative language the other must also be. "By which means [water] the world that them was...perished; but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire." If the "fire" is spiritualized to be something other than real fire then the "water" must also be spiritualized to be something other than real water; therefore, the story of the ark must also be figurative language; therefore, there were no real ark and no real flood.
Figurative language of the sun, moon and stars being darken or falling from heaven is used of the fall of Judea [a national judgment] in Jeremiah 4:1-28, and "The sun shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken" [Matthew 24:29]. Compare Matthew 24:29-30 to the fall of Egypt. "And when I extinguish you, I will cover the heavens, and darken their stars; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give its light. All the shining lights in the heavens I will darken over you and will set darkness on your land, declares the Lord God. I will also trouble the hearts of many peoples, when I bring your destruction among the nations" [Ezekiel 32:7-9]. However, Peter speaks of the utter destruction, passing away, disappearing, disintegrating, being dissolved of "the elements" on the day of the Lord; not just being darken and not giving their light. He is not using figurative language of the passing of a nation, but giving a literal description of the earth and the heavens, the same earth and heavens that He created out of nothing, passing away in one day.
Whichever way you make this [1] a figurative description of the end of a nation, [2] or a literal description, as a literal description of the end of the heavens and earth in the day of the Lord, it is a description of the end of something, not the restoring and making something better. The earth being restored is not in this passage; in it the earth is destroyed, not restored. THERE IS NOT A WORD ABOUT THE EARTH, ISRAEL, OR ANYTHING ON THIS EARTH BEING RESTORED AND MADE BETTER IN 2 PETER 3.
"You, Lord, in the beginning did lay the foundation of THE EARTH, AND THE HEAVENS are the works of your hands: THEY SHALL PERISH; BUT YOU CONTINUES: and they all shall wax old as does a garment; and as a mantle shall you roil them up, as a garment, and they shall be changed; but you are the same, and your years will not come to an end" [Hebrews 1:10-12]. There is no way the writer of Hebrews could have said any stronger that the Earth, not Israel, will end but Jesus will have no end. Realized Eschatology says all prophecy has been fulfilled, therefore, according to them, this has already been fulfilled.
All ungodly man will be destroyed on the day of the Lord, not just the ungodly Jews in A. D. 70 when Israel was destroyed. Is there anyone that cannot see that the ungodly have not yet been destroyed?
Summary: It was the world [kesmos] that was brought into being [βand an earth compacted out of water and amidst waterβ] by the word of God [2 Peter 3:5]. It was the same world [kesmos] that was destroyed by water, all the world, not just one nation that had not come into exists at the time the world was destroyed [2 Peter 3:6]. It is the world [kesmos] that now is that is stored up for fire at the Day of Judgment and destruction of ungodly men [2 Peter 3:7]. The same world [kesmos] (this earth) that was created in 2 Peter 3:5 is the same world that will be destroyed by fire in 2 Peter 3:6. THE FIRE IS JUST AS LITTERAL AS THE WATER. NOTHING IS SAID ABOUT ISRAEL OR ABOUT THE END OF AN AGE [ARION] IN 2 PETER 3. IT WAS REAL WATER THAT FLOATED A REAL BOAT THAT DESTORYED ALL OF THE WORLD [KESMOS], NOT JUST ONE NATION THAT DID NOT EXIST AT THAT TIME. IT WILL BE REAL FIRE THAT WILL DESTORY THE WORLD [KESMOS], NOT JUST THE END OF AN AGE [ARION] FOR ONE NATION.
NO PLACE FOR A RESURECTION
OF THE UNJUST IN THE A. D. 70 TEACHING
Most who believe the A. D. 70 teaching believe the just dead of the Old Testament was resurrected in A. D. 70 and the saved who have died after that time go to Heaven at the moment of death, but I have not found where they believe any unjust have been or will be resurrected from the dead for judgment; no place for the second death after the resurrection in there teaching; no place for a judgment that comes to them after death.
β’ "There shall be a resurrection both of the just and unjust" [Acts 24:15]
β’ "He has appointed a day in which he will judge the world" [Acts 17:31]. Not only the just and not only Israel, but in the same day Christ is going to judge the entire world. That day has not yet come.
β’ "If so be that it is a righteous thing with God to recompense affliction to them that afflict you, and to you that are afflicted rest with us, AT THE REVELATION OF THE LORD JESUS FROM HEAVEN with the angels of his power in flaming fire, RENDERING VENGEANCE TO THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD, AND TO THEM THAT OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS WHO SHALL SUFFER PUNISHMENT, EVEN ETERNAL DESTRUCTION from the face of the Lord and from the glory of his might, WHEN HE SHALL COME TO BE GLORIFIED IN HIS SAINTS, and marveled at in all them that believe (because our testimony unto you was believed) IN THAT DAY" [2 Thessalonians 1:6-10].
β’ "He that rejects me, and receives not my sayings, has one that judges him: the word that I speak, the same shall judge him in the last day" [John 12:48].
β’ "Do not marvel at this; for THE HOUR IS COMING, IN WHICH ALL WHO ARE IN THE TOMBS SHALL HEAR HIS VOICE AND SHALL COME FORTH; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment" [John 5:28-29]. The judgment is clearly said to take place after the resurrection, not at death.
β’ βI solemnly charge you in the presence of God and Christ Jesus, WHO IS TO JUDGE the living and the deadβ [2 Timothy 4:1].
β’ βWho shall give account to him that is ready to judge the living and the deadβ [1 Peter 4:5]. The dead had not been judged but were still to be judged (future tense) they were not already judged at the moment of death and transition from this world to Heaven or Hell.
β’ "For we shall all stand before the judgment-seat of God" [Romans 14:10].
β’ "For we must all be made manifest before the judgment-seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he had done, whether it be good or bad" [2 Corinthians 5:10]. The Corinthians that had fallen asleep in Christ [1 Corinthians 15:20], the just and the unjust must be resurrected to stand before the judgment seat. That there was such a resurrection and judgment in A. D. 70 is pure fiction; there is nothing about it in the Bible.
β’ "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of' Judgment" [Matthew 12:36].
β’ "He that rejects me and receives not my words has one that judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day" [John 12:48].
β’ "God now commands all men everywhere to repent because he has appointed a day in the which He will judge the world by righteousness by that man whom he has ordained, whereof he has given assurance unto all men in that he has raised him from the dead" [Acts 17:30-31].
β’ βFor if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, βVENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAYβ and again, βTHE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE.β It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living Godβ [Hebrews 10:26-31].
β’ 2 Peter 3 (see notes above on 2 Peter 3)
THE RESURRECTION ON THE LAST DAY
THE DAY OF THE LORD
All this in one day, the day Christ comes, the day of the Lord.
β’ The second coming of Christ [2 Peter 3:10].
β’ The resurrection and judgment of the righteous [Acts 24:15; John 5:28-29; 6:40-41].
β’ The resurrection and judgment of the wicked [John 12:48].
β’ The final judgment [Acts 17:31; 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10].
β’ The total destruction of the earth and the heavens that were made from nothing and will return to nothing [2 Peter 3:7-11].
β’ The total destruction of the lost [2 Peter 2:12; 3:7].
β’ The second death [Revelation 2:11].
β’ Death will be abolished [1 Corinthians 15:24-16].
β’ The saved forever with the Lord [1 Thessalonians 4:14-17].
β’ The kingdom will be delivered up to God [1 Corinthians 15:24-26].
β’ Christ will bring the lawless one to an end by the appearance of His coming [2 Thessalonians 2:1-9].
β’ "Wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God" [2 Thessalonians 1:7-10].
[1] ON THE DAY OF THE LORD
THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief" [2 Peter 3:10]. No one knows when the "day of the Lord" will come, but when it comes, EVERYONE on earth, living or dead, will know it. Coming "as a thief" shows the unexpectedness of His coming; no one knows what day or year. No one will be resurrected before the day of the Lord comes, all will be resurrected when it comes.
[2] ON THE DAY OF THE LORD
THE RESURRECTION AND JUDGMENT
OF THE RIGHTEOUS IN THE LAST DAY
"There shall be a resurrection both of the just and unjust" [Acts 24:15]. Both the righteous and the wicked will be raised and judged at the same time on the same day, not a thousand years apart. AS FAR AS I HAVE BEEN ABLE
If the second coming of Christ is passed and all end time prophecy has been fulfilled as Realized Eschatology teaches then life will go on forever on the earth as it is now for, according to them, nothing is said in the Bible about the earth ending, the victory over death when death will have been abolished, or the end of evil.
The fire is just a literal as the water; if one is figurative language the other must also be. "By which means [water] the world that them was...perished; but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire." If the "fire" is spiritualized to be something other than real fire then the "water" must also be spiritualized to be something other than real water; therefore, the story of the ark must also be figurative language; therefore, there were no real ark and no real flood.
Figurative language of the sun, moon and stars being darken or falling from heaven is used of the fall of Judea [a national judgment] in Jeremiah 4:1-28, and "The sun shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken" [Matthew 24:29]. Compare Matthew 24:29-30 to the fall of Egypt. "And when I extinguish you, I will cover the heavens, and darken their stars; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give its light. All the shining lights in the heavens I will darken over you and will set darkness on your land, declares the Lord God. I will also trouble the hearts of many peoples, when I bring your destruction among the nations" [Ezekiel 32:7-9]. However, Peter speaks of the utter destruction, passing away, disappearing, disintegrating, being dissolved of "the elements" on the day of the Lord; not just being darken and not giving their light. He is not using figurative language of the passing of a nation, but giving a literal description of the earth and the heavens, the same earth and heavens that He created out of nothing, passing away in one day.
Whichever way you make this [1] a figurative description of the end of a nation, [2] or a literal description, as a literal description of the end of the heavens and earth in the day of the Lord, it is a description of the end of something, not the restoring and making something better. The earth being restored is not in this passage; in it the earth is destroyed, not restored. THERE IS NOT A WORD ABOUT THE EARTH, ISRAEL, OR ANYTHING ON THIS EARTH BEING RESTORED AND MADE BETTER IN 2 PETER 3.
"You, Lord, in the beginning did lay the foundation of THE EARTH, AND THE HEAVENS are the works of your hands: THEY SHALL PERISH; BUT YOU CONTINUES: and they all shall wax old as does a garment; and as a mantle shall you roil them up, as a garment, and they shall be changed; but you are the same, and your years will not come to an end" [Hebrews 1:10-12]. There is no way the writer of Hebrews could have said any stronger that the Earth, not Israel, will end but Jesus will have no end. Realized Eschatology says all prophecy has been fulfilled, therefore, according to them, this has already been fulfilled.
All ungodly man will be destroyed on the day of the Lord, not just the ungodly Jews in A. D. 70 when Israel was destroyed. Is there anyone that cannot see that the ungodly have not yet been destroyed?
Summary: It was the world [kesmos] that was brought into being [βand an earth compacted out of water and amidst waterβ] by the word of God [2 Peter 3:5]. It was the same world [kesmos] that was destroyed by water, all the world, not just one nation that had not come into exists at the time the world was destroyed [2 Peter 3:6]. It is the world [kesmos] that now is that is stored up for fire at the Day of Judgment and destruction of ungodly men [2 Peter 3:7]. The same world [kesmos] (this earth) that was created in 2 Peter 3:5 is the same world that will be destroyed by fire in 2 Peter 3:6. THE FIRE IS JUST AS LITTERAL AS THE WATER. NOTHING IS SAID ABOUT ISRAEL OR ABOUT THE END OF AN AGE [ARION] IN 2 PETER 3. IT WAS REAL WATER THAT FLOATED A REAL BOAT THAT DESTORYED ALL OF THE WORLD [KESMOS], NOT JUST ONE NATION THAT DID NOT EXIST AT THAT TIME. IT WILL BE REAL FIRE THAT WILL DESTORY THE WORLD [KESMOS], NOT JUST THE END OF AN AGE [ARION] FOR ONE NATION.
NO PLACE FOR A RESURECTION
OF THE UNJUST IN THE A. D. 70 TEACHING
Most who believe the A. D. 70 teaching believe the just dead of the Old Testament was resurrected in A. D. 70 and the saved who have died after that time go to Heaven at the moment of death, but I have not found where they believe any unjust have been or will be resurrected from the dead for judgment; no place for the second death after the resurrection in there teaching; no place for a judgment that comes to them after death.
β’ "There shall be a resurrection both of the just and unjust" [Acts 24:15]
β’ "He has appointed a day in which he will judge the world" [Acts 17:31]. Not only the just and not only Israel, but in the same day Christ is going to judge the entire world. That day has not yet come.
β’ "If so be that it is a righteous thing with God to recompense affliction to them that afflict you, and to you that are afflicted rest with us, AT THE REVELATION OF THE LORD JESUS FROM HEAVEN with the angels of his power in flaming fire, RENDERING VENGEANCE TO THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD, AND TO THEM THAT OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS WHO SHALL SUFFER PUNISHMENT, EVEN ETERNAL DESTRUCTION from the face of the Lord and from the glory of his might, WHEN HE SHALL COME TO BE GLORIFIED IN HIS SAINTS, and marveled at in all them that believe (because our testimony unto you was believed) IN THAT DAY" [2 Thessalonians 1:6-10].
β’ "He that rejects me, and receives not my sayings, has one that judges him: the word that I speak, the same shall judge him in the last day" [John 12:48].
β’ "Do not marvel at this; for THE HOUR IS COMING, IN WHICH ALL WHO ARE IN THE TOMBS SHALL HEAR HIS VOICE AND SHALL COME FORTH; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment" [John 5:28-29]. The judgment is clearly said to take place after the resurrection, not at death.
β’ βI solemnly charge you in the presence of God and Christ Jesus, WHO IS TO JUDGE the living and the deadβ [2 Timothy 4:1].
β’ βWho shall give account to him that is ready to judge the living and the deadβ [1 Peter 4:5]. The dead had not been judged but were still to be judged (future tense) they were not already judged at the moment of death and transition from this world to Heaven or Hell.
β’ "For we shall all stand before the judgment-seat of God" [Romans 14:10].
β’ "For we must all be made manifest before the judgment-seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he had done, whether it be good or bad" [2 Corinthians 5:10]. The Corinthians that had fallen asleep in Christ [1 Corinthians 15:20], the just and the unjust must be resurrected to stand before the judgment seat. That there was such a resurrection and judgment in A. D. 70 is pure fiction; there is nothing about it in the Bible.
β’ "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of' Judgment" [Matthew 12:36].
β’ "He that rejects me and receives not my words has one that judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day" [John 12:48].
β’ "God now commands all men everywhere to repent because he has appointed a day in the which He will judge the world by righteousness by that man whom he has ordained, whereof he has given assurance unto all men in that he has raised him from the dead" [Acts 17:30-31].
β’ βFor if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, βVENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAYβ and again, βTHE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE.β It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living Godβ [Hebrews 10:26-31].
β’ 2 Peter 3 (see notes above on 2 Peter 3)
THE RESURRECTION ON THE LAST DAY
THE DAY OF THE LORD
All this in one day, the day Christ comes, the day of the Lord.
β’ The second coming of Christ [2 Peter 3:10].
β’ The resurrection and judgment of the righteous [Acts 24:15; John 5:28-29; 6:40-41].
β’ The resurrection and judgment of the wicked [John 12:48].
β’ The final judgment [Acts 17:31; 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10].
β’ The total destruction of the earth and the heavens that were made from nothing and will return to nothing [2 Peter 3:7-11].
β’ The total destruction of the lost [2 Peter 2:12; 3:7].
β’ The second death [Revelation 2:11].
β’ Death will be abolished [1 Corinthians 15:24-16].
β’ The saved forever with the Lord [1 Thessalonians 4:14-17].
β’ The kingdom will be delivered up to God [1 Corinthians 15:24-26].
β’ Christ will bring the lawless one to an end by the appearance of His coming [2 Thessalonians 2:1-9].
β’ "Wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God" [2 Thessalonians 1:7-10].
[1] ON THE DAY OF THE LORD
THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief" [2 Peter 3:10]. No one knows when the "day of the Lord" will come, but when it comes, EVERYONE on earth, living or dead, will know it. Coming "as a thief" shows the unexpectedness of His coming; no one knows what day or year. No one will be resurrected before the day of the Lord comes, all will be resurrected when it comes.
[2] ON THE DAY OF THE LORD
THE RESURRECTION AND JUDGMENT
OF THE RIGHTEOUS IN THE LAST DAY
"There shall be a resurrection both of the just and unjust" [Acts 24:15]. Both the righteous and the wicked will be raised and judged at the same time on the same day, not a thousand years apart. AS FAR AS I HAVE BEEN ABLE
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