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What is a man? Is a person born with an immortal soul, or do the saved put on immortality at the resurrection? Is a person a three part being, an animal body with both a soul and a spirit that will live without the body? This is one of the most important questions of all time. It has more influence on our conception of our nature, our view of life in this world and life after death than any other question.
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[sheol-Hell], and the
noise of your viols: the worm is spread under you, and the worms cover you." In the same
context sheol is translated HELL in Isaiah 14:9, GRAVE in Isaiah 14:11, and HELL in
Isaiah 14:15 in the King James Version and in all three it is Israel's "taunt against the
king of Babylon" [Isaiah 14:4], and of the description of Babylon joining the other dead
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nations in sheol [Isaiah 14:9-10]. They do not seem to know whether they wanted to put
Babylon in "Hell" or in the "grave." How inconsistent could they be? They were just as
inconsistent throughout the Old Testament. "Maggots are spread out as your bed beneath
you, and worms are your covering" New American Standard Bible. The worms that eat
the body are in the grave, not maggots in Heaven or Hell; Babylon was dead and in its
grave.
(2) Ezekiel 31:15 "Thus says the Lord God; In the day when he went down to the
GRAVE [sheol-Hell] I caused a mourning." See notes on Ezekiel 31:16 where sheol is
translated "Hell."
(3) And (4) Hosea 13:14 "I will ransom them from the power to the GRAVE [sheol-
Hell]; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be your plagues; O GRAVE [sheol-
Hell], I will be your destruction." This is God redeeming the nation of Israel from
captivity, not individual Jews being resurrected from the grave. The whole chapter is
about the nation of Israel; God brought them out of Egypt [Hosea 13:4]. "It is your
destruction, O Israel, that you are against me, against your help. Where now is your king
that he may save you in all your cities, and your judges of whom you requested, βGive me
a king and a princeβ? I gave you a king in My anger, and took him away in My wrath"
[Hosea 13:9-11]. "O Israel, return unto Jehovah your God; for you have fallen by your
iniquity" [Hosea 14:1]. The translators did not believe any one would be redeemed,
individuals or nations, from Hell, therefore, they have the redeeming being from the
grave; if they had translated sheol into Hell they would have had Hell being destroyed by
God (βO sheol I will be your destructionβ), but the Hell they believed in could not be
destroyed and no one could ever be redeemed from it.
Because 1 Corinthians 15:54 says, βThen shall come to pass the saying that is
writtenβ many think Paul quoted Hosea 13:14 in 1 Corinthians 15:55 but it is difficult to
see how βDeath is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is your victory? O death
where is your sting?β is a quotation from βO death, I will be your plagues; O grave I will
be your destruction" [Hosea 13:14]. Hosea was speaking of Israel rebellion being their
plagues and destruction. Paul was speaking of death being swallowed up in victory by the
resurrection at the second coming of Christ. Hosea was speaking of the destruction of
Israel, Paul of the victory of the faithful. NEITHER HOSEA NOR PAUL WAS
SPEAKING OF ETERNAL TORMENT AFTER DEATH.
Nations in Hell in 14 passages
FOURTEEN OF THE THIRTY-ONE PASSAGES TRANSLATED HELL IN THE
KING JAMES VERSION, EIGHTEEN OF THE FIFTY-FOUR PASSAGES WITH
SHEOL ARE THE DESTRUCTION OF NATIONS AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO
WITH INDIVIDUALS. ALTHOUGH WHAT IS SAID IN THESE EIGHTEEN
PASSAGES DO NOT IN ANYWAY FIT WITH TODAY'S THEOLOGY OF "HELL,"
THEY ARE OFTEN USED ANYWAY, mostly by the Jonathan Edwards type of Hell
fire preacher who take them out of their context of speaking about the end of nations and
make they be speaking of lost individuals that they will have no end but will live forever
being tormented by God.
(1) Deuteronomy 32:22 GOD'S ANGER TOWARD ISRAEL. "For a fire is kindled in
mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest HELL [sheol], and shall consume the earth
with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains." Hundreds of years
from Genesis to Deuteronomy had passed, and it was not unto the seventh time sheol is
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used before the King James translators thought they could put the Hell they believed in
into the Bible. But, what does this passage say? Jeshurun forsook God [32:15]. They
(Israel) provoked God to jealousy with strange gods [32:16]. They (Israel) sacrificed unto
devils [32:17]. They moved God to jealousy with that which is not a god and provoked
Him to anger [32:21]. In God's anger, a fire is kindled which would burn to the lowest
sheol [grave] and shall consume the earth. This fire is on earth, not in Hell. "I will heap
mischief upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them. They shall be burnt with
hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the
teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust. The sword without, and
terror within, shall destroy both the young man and virgin, the suckling also with the man
of gray hairs. I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of
them to cease from among men" [Deuteronomy 23:23-26, Also 1 Thessalonians 2:16].
ALL THIS, INCLUDING THE FIRE UNTO THE LOWEST GRAVE IS GOD'S
PUNISHMENT TO THE NATION OF ISRAEL AT THAT TIME. ALL THESE
PUNISHMENTS ARE THOSE THAT CAN ONLY BE INFLICTED ON THE LIVING,
NOT ON AN IMMATERIAL, INVISIBLE PART OF A PERSON THAT HAS NO
SUBSTANCE. THERE IS NOT ONE WORD ABOUT ANYONE BURNING IN HELL
AFTER DEATH OR AFTER THE JUDGMENT. If it were a Hell, there would be beast,
poison serpents, swords, etc. in Hell. Suckling babies would be destroyed in Hell.
The "how" of this burning "unto the lowest hell [grave-sheol]," is described in
Deuteronomy 32:21-26 in a way that it could not be the "Hell" that is believed in by
many today, but is God's anger with the nation of Israel. This is almost a repeat of
Leviticus 26:14ff of what would happen to Israel if they did not obey God.
β’ Verse 21 "I will provoke them (Israel) to anger with a foolish nation."
β’ Verse 22 "And consumes the earth with it yield."
β’ Verse 23 "I will heap disasters upon them (Israel)."
β’ Verse 24 "They (Israel) shall be wasted with hunger, devoured with pestilence."
See 2 Samuel 24:13-15; Exodus 9:15; 2 Chronicles 21:14
β’ Verse 24 "And the teeth of beasts I will send upon them (Israel), with the venom of
crawling things of the dust."
β’ Verse 25 "The sword will destroy outside."
β’ Verse 26 "I would scatter them (Israel) afar, I would make the remembrance of
them (Israel) to cease from among men."
If "lowest Hell" spoken of in this passage were the "Hell" that is taught today, was
David forever tormented by God in this "lowest Hell"? Or was he in it for a period of
time and came out of it? See Psalm 86:13 below where the King James Version David
says he was delivered out of the βlowest Hell.β Had David literally been in Hell and
delivered out of it before his death, or had the nation of Israel literally been in Hell?
FROM GENESIS TO DEUTERONOMY, CENTURIES HAD PASSED BEFORE
THE KING JAMES TRANSLATORS FIRST PUT HELL IN THE BIBLE ALTHOUGH
SHEOL HAD BEEN USED OFTEN. HUNDREDS MORE YEARS PASSED BEFORE
THE NEW KING JAMES TRANSLATORS TRANSLATED SHEOL INTO HELL THE
SECOND TIME.
FIVE OUT OF THIRTY-SIX The New King James Version translates "sheol" into
Hell only five times out of the first thirty-six times "sheol" is used.
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1. THE 7TH TIME SHEOL IS USED IS THE FIRST TIME IT IS
TRANSLATED "HELL" Deuteronomy 32:22.
2. THE 20TH TIME SHEOL IS USED IS THE SECOND TIME IT IS
TRANSLATED "HELL" Psalms 9:17. Centuries has passed from when Adam
sinned and was put out of the garden before the King James translators thought
they had found a second place where it was safe to put βHellβ in the Bible. Did it
not mean Hell in eighteen of the first twenty times sheol is used? Did it mean
"grave" a place on this earth for centuries and then the same word was changed to
"Hell," a place not on this earth? A place where there is no life or torment
changed to a place of eternal life in torment?
3. THE 28TH TIME SHEOL IS USED IS ONLY THE THIRD TIME IT IS
TRANSLATED "HELL" Psalms 55:15
4. THE 33RD TIME SHEOL IS USED IS ONLY THE FOURTH TIME IT IS
TRANSLATED "HELL" Psalms 139:8
5. THE 36TH TIME SHEOL IS USED IS ONLY THE FIFTH TIME IT IS
TRANSLATED "HELL" Proverbs 5:5. All the other thirty one times sheol is
used before this is either translated grave or pit. EVEN IN "HELL'S BIBLE,"
THE KING JAMES VERSION, THE TRANSLATORS DID NOT THINK
SHEOL MEANS "HELL" IN THIRTY-ONE OF THE FIRST THIRTY-SIX
TIMES IT IS USED AND DID NOT TRANSLATE IT "HELL."
(2) Psalms 9:15-17 "The nations have sunk down in the pit which they have
made...The Lord is known by the judgment which he executes: the wicked is snared in the
work of his own hands ... The wicked shall be turned into HELL [grave-sheol], and all the
nations that forget God" ["return to Sheol" New American Standard Bible, Psalms 9:15-
17]. The same thing will happen to both the wicked persons and the nations that forget
God. They both will go to sheol, the grave. Do some think evil nations live in torment in
Hell after the nations no longer exists on this earth or that evil nations do not have some
good people in them that would not be in Hell? Both will be in the grave, both will be
dead, not both in eternal torment together in Hell. According to the American Standard
Version the wicked are the wicked nations. "The wicked shall be turned back unto sheol,
even all the nations that forget God." Psalms 9:15-20 is speaking of the nations that
forget God. There is no threat of after-death punishment of individuals in this passage.
(3) Isaiah 5:14 "Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no
knowledge: and their honorable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with
thirst. Therefore, HELL [grave-sheol] has enlarged herself and opened her mouth without
measure." Because they had left the Lord, they went into captivity. See Proverbs 27:20
above. Their captivity was a grave [sheol] to them as a nation; grave is used as a
metaphor of their captivity, their death as a nation, a literal grave cannot enlarge herself
and has no mouth. Can anyone tell my why the translators put the nation of Israel in Hell;
does a nation in captivity being make Hell be on the earth and end when the captivity of
that nation ends?
(4) Isaiah 14:9 "HELL [sheol "grave" in margin of King James Version] from beneath
is moved for thee to meet you at your coming: it stirs up the dead [rephaim] for you, even
all the chief ones of the earth; it has raised up from the earth; it has raised up from their
thrones all the kings of the nations. All they shall speak and say unto you, Are you also
become weak as we? are you become like unto us?" This is a deception of the fall of
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Babylon and has nothing to do with the soul after death. In this metaphor, the past dead
nations were surprised to see a nation as strong as Babylon joining them. If the dead were
alive in sheol, why would they be surprised to see other persons joining them when all
would? Isaiah 26:14 "They [the Nations] are dead, [rephaim] they shall not live; they are
deceased, they shall not rise; therefore has you visited and destroyed them, and made all
remembrance of them to perish." This is about nations
noise of your viols: the worm is spread under you, and the worms cover you." In the same
context sheol is translated HELL in Isaiah 14:9, GRAVE in Isaiah 14:11, and HELL in
Isaiah 14:15 in the King James Version and in all three it is Israel's "taunt against the
king of Babylon" [Isaiah 14:4], and of the description of Babylon joining the other dead
272
nations in sheol [Isaiah 14:9-10]. They do not seem to know whether they wanted to put
Babylon in "Hell" or in the "grave." How inconsistent could they be? They were just as
inconsistent throughout the Old Testament. "Maggots are spread out as your bed beneath
you, and worms are your covering" New American Standard Bible. The worms that eat
the body are in the grave, not maggots in Heaven or Hell; Babylon was dead and in its
grave.
(2) Ezekiel 31:15 "Thus says the Lord God; In the day when he went down to the
GRAVE [sheol-Hell] I caused a mourning." See notes on Ezekiel 31:16 where sheol is
translated "Hell."
(3) And (4) Hosea 13:14 "I will ransom them from the power to the GRAVE [sheol-
Hell]; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be your plagues; O GRAVE [sheol-
Hell], I will be your destruction." This is God redeeming the nation of Israel from
captivity, not individual Jews being resurrected from the grave. The whole chapter is
about the nation of Israel; God brought them out of Egypt [Hosea 13:4]. "It is your
destruction, O Israel, that you are against me, against your help. Where now is your king
that he may save you in all your cities, and your judges of whom you requested, βGive me
a king and a princeβ? I gave you a king in My anger, and took him away in My wrath"
[Hosea 13:9-11]. "O Israel, return unto Jehovah your God; for you have fallen by your
iniquity" [Hosea 14:1]. The translators did not believe any one would be redeemed,
individuals or nations, from Hell, therefore, they have the redeeming being from the
grave; if they had translated sheol into Hell they would have had Hell being destroyed by
God (βO sheol I will be your destructionβ), but the Hell they believed in could not be
destroyed and no one could ever be redeemed from it.
Because 1 Corinthians 15:54 says, βThen shall come to pass the saying that is
writtenβ many think Paul quoted Hosea 13:14 in 1 Corinthians 15:55 but it is difficult to
see how βDeath is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is your victory? O death
where is your sting?β is a quotation from βO death, I will be your plagues; O grave I will
be your destruction" [Hosea 13:14]. Hosea was speaking of Israel rebellion being their
plagues and destruction. Paul was speaking of death being swallowed up in victory by the
resurrection at the second coming of Christ. Hosea was speaking of the destruction of
Israel, Paul of the victory of the faithful. NEITHER HOSEA NOR PAUL WAS
SPEAKING OF ETERNAL TORMENT AFTER DEATH.
Nations in Hell in 14 passages
FOURTEEN OF THE THIRTY-ONE PASSAGES TRANSLATED HELL IN THE
KING JAMES VERSION, EIGHTEEN OF THE FIFTY-FOUR PASSAGES WITH
SHEOL ARE THE DESTRUCTION OF NATIONS AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO
WITH INDIVIDUALS. ALTHOUGH WHAT IS SAID IN THESE EIGHTEEN
PASSAGES DO NOT IN ANYWAY FIT WITH TODAY'S THEOLOGY OF "HELL,"
THEY ARE OFTEN USED ANYWAY, mostly by the Jonathan Edwards type of Hell
fire preacher who take them out of their context of speaking about the end of nations and
make they be speaking of lost individuals that they will have no end but will live forever
being tormented by God.
(1) Deuteronomy 32:22 GOD'S ANGER TOWARD ISRAEL. "For a fire is kindled in
mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest HELL [sheol], and shall consume the earth
with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains." Hundreds of years
from Genesis to Deuteronomy had passed, and it was not unto the seventh time sheol is
273
used before the King James translators thought they could put the Hell they believed in
into the Bible. But, what does this passage say? Jeshurun forsook God [32:15]. They
(Israel) provoked God to jealousy with strange gods [32:16]. They (Israel) sacrificed unto
devils [32:17]. They moved God to jealousy with that which is not a god and provoked
Him to anger [32:21]. In God's anger, a fire is kindled which would burn to the lowest
sheol [grave] and shall consume the earth. This fire is on earth, not in Hell. "I will heap
mischief upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them. They shall be burnt with
hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the
teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust. The sword without, and
terror within, shall destroy both the young man and virgin, the suckling also with the man
of gray hairs. I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of
them to cease from among men" [Deuteronomy 23:23-26, Also 1 Thessalonians 2:16].
ALL THIS, INCLUDING THE FIRE UNTO THE LOWEST GRAVE IS GOD'S
PUNISHMENT TO THE NATION OF ISRAEL AT THAT TIME. ALL THESE
PUNISHMENTS ARE THOSE THAT CAN ONLY BE INFLICTED ON THE LIVING,
NOT ON AN IMMATERIAL, INVISIBLE PART OF A PERSON THAT HAS NO
SUBSTANCE. THERE IS NOT ONE WORD ABOUT ANYONE BURNING IN HELL
AFTER DEATH OR AFTER THE JUDGMENT. If it were a Hell, there would be beast,
poison serpents, swords, etc. in Hell. Suckling babies would be destroyed in Hell.
The "how" of this burning "unto the lowest hell [grave-sheol]," is described in
Deuteronomy 32:21-26 in a way that it could not be the "Hell" that is believed in by
many today, but is God's anger with the nation of Israel. This is almost a repeat of
Leviticus 26:14ff of what would happen to Israel if they did not obey God.
β’ Verse 21 "I will provoke them (Israel) to anger with a foolish nation."
β’ Verse 22 "And consumes the earth with it yield."
β’ Verse 23 "I will heap disasters upon them (Israel)."
β’ Verse 24 "They (Israel) shall be wasted with hunger, devoured with pestilence."
See 2 Samuel 24:13-15; Exodus 9:15; 2 Chronicles 21:14
β’ Verse 24 "And the teeth of beasts I will send upon them (Israel), with the venom of
crawling things of the dust."
β’ Verse 25 "The sword will destroy outside."
β’ Verse 26 "I would scatter them (Israel) afar, I would make the remembrance of
them (Israel) to cease from among men."
If "lowest Hell" spoken of in this passage were the "Hell" that is taught today, was
David forever tormented by God in this "lowest Hell"? Or was he in it for a period of
time and came out of it? See Psalm 86:13 below where the King James Version David
says he was delivered out of the βlowest Hell.β Had David literally been in Hell and
delivered out of it before his death, or had the nation of Israel literally been in Hell?
FROM GENESIS TO DEUTERONOMY, CENTURIES HAD PASSED BEFORE
THE KING JAMES TRANSLATORS FIRST PUT HELL IN THE BIBLE ALTHOUGH
SHEOL HAD BEEN USED OFTEN. HUNDREDS MORE YEARS PASSED BEFORE
THE NEW KING JAMES TRANSLATORS TRANSLATED SHEOL INTO HELL THE
SECOND TIME.
FIVE OUT OF THIRTY-SIX The New King James Version translates "sheol" into
Hell only five times out of the first thirty-six times "sheol" is used.
274
1. THE 7TH TIME SHEOL IS USED IS THE FIRST TIME IT IS
TRANSLATED "HELL" Deuteronomy 32:22.
2. THE 20TH TIME SHEOL IS USED IS THE SECOND TIME IT IS
TRANSLATED "HELL" Psalms 9:17. Centuries has passed from when Adam
sinned and was put out of the garden before the King James translators thought
they had found a second place where it was safe to put βHellβ in the Bible. Did it
not mean Hell in eighteen of the first twenty times sheol is used? Did it mean
"grave" a place on this earth for centuries and then the same word was changed to
"Hell," a place not on this earth? A place where there is no life or torment
changed to a place of eternal life in torment?
3. THE 28TH TIME SHEOL IS USED IS ONLY THE THIRD TIME IT IS
TRANSLATED "HELL" Psalms 55:15
4. THE 33RD TIME SHEOL IS USED IS ONLY THE FOURTH TIME IT IS
TRANSLATED "HELL" Psalms 139:8
5. THE 36TH TIME SHEOL IS USED IS ONLY THE FIFTH TIME IT IS
TRANSLATED "HELL" Proverbs 5:5. All the other thirty one times sheol is
used before this is either translated grave or pit. EVEN IN "HELL'S BIBLE,"
THE KING JAMES VERSION, THE TRANSLATORS DID NOT THINK
SHEOL MEANS "HELL" IN THIRTY-ONE OF THE FIRST THIRTY-SIX
TIMES IT IS USED AND DID NOT TRANSLATE IT "HELL."
(2) Psalms 9:15-17 "The nations have sunk down in the pit which they have
made...The Lord is known by the judgment which he executes: the wicked is snared in the
work of his own hands ... The wicked shall be turned into HELL [grave-sheol], and all the
nations that forget God" ["return to Sheol" New American Standard Bible, Psalms 9:15-
17]. The same thing will happen to both the wicked persons and the nations that forget
God. They both will go to sheol, the grave. Do some think evil nations live in torment in
Hell after the nations no longer exists on this earth or that evil nations do not have some
good people in them that would not be in Hell? Both will be in the grave, both will be
dead, not both in eternal torment together in Hell. According to the American Standard
Version the wicked are the wicked nations. "The wicked shall be turned back unto sheol,
even all the nations that forget God." Psalms 9:15-20 is speaking of the nations that
forget God. There is no threat of after-death punishment of individuals in this passage.
(3) Isaiah 5:14 "Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no
knowledge: and their honorable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with
thirst. Therefore, HELL [grave-sheol] has enlarged herself and opened her mouth without
measure." Because they had left the Lord, they went into captivity. See Proverbs 27:20
above. Their captivity was a grave [sheol] to them as a nation; grave is used as a
metaphor of their captivity, their death as a nation, a literal grave cannot enlarge herself
and has no mouth. Can anyone tell my why the translators put the nation of Israel in Hell;
does a nation in captivity being make Hell be on the earth and end when the captivity of
that nation ends?
(4) Isaiah 14:9 "HELL [sheol "grave" in margin of King James Version] from beneath
is moved for thee to meet you at your coming: it stirs up the dead [rephaim] for you, even
all the chief ones of the earth; it has raised up from the earth; it has raised up from their
thrones all the kings of the nations. All they shall speak and say unto you, Are you also
become weak as we? are you become like unto us?" This is a deception of the fall of
275
Babylon and has nothing to do with the soul after death. In this metaphor, the past dead
nations were surprised to see a nation as strong as Babylon joining them. If the dead were
alive in sheol, why would they be surprised to see other persons joining them when all
would? Isaiah 26:14 "They [the Nations] are dead, [rephaim] they shall not live; they are
deceased, they shall not rise; therefore has you visited and destroyed them, and made all
remembrance of them to perish." This is about nations
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